Forum - View topicAre Manga publishers ripping off customers?
|
Goto page 1, 2, 3 Next |
| Author | Message | |||||
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
|
Jale
Posts: 3 |
|
|||||
|
I think they or doing this but not on purpose…I just found out that some Manga and Manhwa I bought would not be continued… Now, I have incomplete book series just sitting on my bookshelves collecting dust…what a waste of money… Who is running these companies…didn’t they test the market out first before flooding it with a large assortment of Manga titles…Customers or running around here buying books with the assumption that the series would be still on going only to find out…they paid $10 bucks for a book series that will never be completed… Therefore, useless you know Japanese or Korean you’ll never know the end of the book you bought… Thank Heaven! for Scanlation groups that pick up some these kicked aside titles and translate them for us English speaking folks…
If these companies plan to become big in the US in the graphic novel industry I suggest they treat customers a lot better… Stop given us the lame excuse you didn’t know which series would sale better so you had to flood the market to find that out… If you put a book on the market that is a series Finish the darn thing!... I know of couple of manga’s I would have never continued to buy after reading the first volumes but later changed my mind and went on the buy more of them…You cannot judge your sales on how well the first and second volume only sold… Just my thoughts 
|
||||||
|
||||||
milcor1
 Posts: 337 |
|
|||||
|
If you're talking about No.5 I'm with you
 .
|
||||||
|
||||||
remember love
 Posts: 764 Location: Germany |
|
|||||
|
I think they treat it like a T.V. show. First you put out a pilot and maybe throw in some other shows to see how it goes. If ratings turn out bad they end it and say well we gave it a try. But if the ratings are good then they'll decide to continue the show and finish off the season and go from there....I think this applies to manga as well.
Though I still don't understand why X manga hasn't been finished yet because X gotten pretty good reviews. I know CLAMP is getting old and all but they started on Holic I would've rather them finish off X manga before starting on a new tv series (unless of course they decided to work on Tokyo Babylon). But other then X, I think my theory applies. |
||||||
|
||||||
Abarenbo Shogun
 Posts: 1573 |
|
|||||
|
Some can be explained.
Ragnarok abruptly left in a cliffhanger due to the creator focusing more on his online MMORPG than on the Manwha. Supposedly, he might finish it, but then again...... ....and thats it. |
||||||
|
||||||
marie-antoinette
 Posts: 4136 Location: Ottawa, Canada |
|
|||||
|
I think it makes perfect sense. You can do marketting tests, but you never know anything for sure until you put the manga out there, and if the first volumes bomb, why would you want to lose money by publishing any more.
Also, there are a couple manga out there which have not be finished in Japanese either, like the aforementioned X, or things like Alichino which was just not being continued. It's annoying, of course, but still, for the company it makes sense. |
||||||
|
||||||
|
Jale
Posts: 3 |
|
|||||
|
I talked to so many other people who are tired of this from the manga graphic industry..That some people have stopped buying the books all together...I know of some one who has developed a method to buying Manga in order to protect themselves...By only buy into a series when the volumes have almost all been completed...I think I'll start following that person style in buying manga...I use to rush out an buy the manga to support the artist and company...
But not any more I'll use the wait and see what they do approach first...I'm disgusted with buying incompleted manga time and time again...I know the companies are doing their best to get these titles out for the public...But the high prices customers pay for a Manga series and to have it not finished is shamful...just my thought! |
||||||
|
||||||
|
marie-antoinette
Posts: 4136 Location: Ottawa, Canada |
|
|||||
|
How many series does this happen to anyway? I've never come across a single one where the licensing of it stopped partway, though granted my main manga tastes run in fairly popular manga (of late, Watase Yuu and CLAMP)
|
||||||
|
||||||
Kagemusha
 Posts: 2783 Location: Boston |
|
|||||
Quite a few. To be honest, most of them are unavoidable; you can't make people buy things. Viz probobly has the most, partly because they were willing to take more chances and partly because they make stupid decisions on marketing.
You know, about a year ago I actually had a dream that I walked into the local comicbook store and found the third volume on sale...needless to say, I was pissed when I woke up. No one is going to make the argument that No.5 will be a smash hit, but if they put it out in the standard format (I love the oversized trades, but no one is going to touch it with a 16 dollar price tag) it could do well, especially with the Black and White movie coming up. I got the impression that they were releasing Blue Spring to test how successful other Matsumoto manga would be, but considering how half-assed their effort was to sell it (it wasn't even listed on their website until a week ago), they could at least give one of his more appealing titles another shot. |
||||||
|
||||||
darkhunter
 Posts: 2992 Location: Los Angelas |
|
|||||
YOu know that it would help your argument if you: 1. state the company you're refering to 2. state the title you're refering to because it definitely would help me understand where you're coming from. And hey there are a lot of titles in Japan that get cancle due to poor sale too. Do japanese people feel ripoff that their favorite series has been cancle? Perhaps, but that's how business work. A popular title in japan might not be popular here, thus instead of losing issue if only a few people are going to enjoy it. Last edited by darkhunter on Tue Nov 08, 2005 1:53 am; edited 1 time in total |
||||||
|
||||||
|
.Sy
Posts: 1266 |
|
|||||
|
Well what's been done is done, and we can only hope that the companies will stop flooding the market and take their time from now on, save TokyoPop, who is still afloat and has always released many volumes every month. I was thinking - well, hypothesizing really - that perhaps the companies will finish releasing a few series or at least get towards the end of one before releasing another. For example, if company X would get to the end, or towards the end of say, three series before lisencing more titles, that would almost guarentee that every volume would be on the shelves. I know a few friends who have been waiting forever for some ADV manga to come out, and I doubt that'll happen sometime soon. I do think the manga will continue to be released after ADV has gotten a stronger foothold, but it'll take some time for recovery. I'm thinking, not within the nxt six months will that happen. Del Rey seems to be consistent, although their manga releases are usually quarterly instead of bimonthly (every two months, whatever).
|
||||||
|
||||||
lait_renverse
 Posts: 4 Location: Washington State |
|
|||||
|
Yeah I'd have to agree that tha really sucks. New compainies come in, flood you with new series, but never finish publishing. Even some of the bigger name companies. Tokyopop published Immortal Rain through volume 6 (thats all that is listed on their website), however, in the back of volume six it says "To be continued in volume 7) So were know that theres another one, but were evidentally never going to get it.
|
||||||
|
||||||
|
uberfrosch
Posts: 48 |
|
|||||
No. As I understand it volume 7 of Immortal Rain is slated for release in Japan this very month. It's hard to translate and publish something that isn't actually collected yet. On the larger issue... it's just a risk in any form of serial storytelling. It's a risk the story won't be finished. When the serial is both currently running and imported the risk is doubled, because there's both the risk the story won't be finished in the original format, and that importer will go out of business, cut their losses, or otherwise stop importing it. It's unfortunate, but simply the reality of the situation. |
||||||
|
||||||
|
darkhunter
Posts: 2992 Location: Los Angelas |
|
|||||
Like many people on this forum, they simply don't know what they're talking about and just going off on assumptions and speculation. |
||||||
|
||||||
|
lait_renverse
Posts: 4 Location: Washington State |
|
|||||
eh? There really is no reason to be so mean about it. I was just speculating and saying what I had been told. If information differs I'm always happy to change my opinion, but you don't have to be nasty about it |
||||||
|
||||||
|
linlinchan
Posts: 286 |
|
|||||
At least in the case of Tokyopop manga series: Nothing is ever cancelled in the middle, they publish until the end no matter how poorly it is selling. With that in mind, there are many series that TP has licensed which say "to be continued," but never are in their original language of Japanese or Korean. Some examples are... Cross (Sumiko Amakawa) Culdcept (which was "continued" for the longest time, now vol. 5 was JUST released in Japan) Priest Ragnarok Immortal Rain. Some of these NEVER pick back up in Japan/Korea though they say they're going to. |
||||||
|
||||||
 |
All times are GMT - 5 Hours |
|
|
|
Powered by phpBB © 2001, 2005 phpBB Group