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Millhi



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PostPosted: Fri Sep 07, 2018 10:35 am Reply with quote
spoiler[I did enjoy the anime ending more as opposed to the live action time skip towards the end with gum guy marrying kyouko but that might just be me]

and on some more key moments in the movie spoiler[I was really sad they used still frames for some of the mc x sakura moments, wanted to see those fully animated]

next up for me is to actually read the novel.
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 08, 2018 12:15 am Reply with quote
I'm thinking I might want to wait and watch the live action version AFTER this version. That way I won't be disappointed when the animated movie doesn't deliver as well as the live action.
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The film was hyper underwhelming for me. The emotional connection between the main leads was really specific that it was hard for me to relate to them at all level. Surprisingly though, there were a lot of people crying in the theatre near the end, I guess that means I am cold Confused ?

But I agree with the review about that firework scene though, that was the best part of the film animation wise.
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I caught the screening last night. It's not bad but it made me feel my age.
I've seen this before. I already have my favorites and not much was surprising. I reflexively teared up when MC cried but there were not really many tears in the theater. Which surprised me. Last week's screening of A Silent Voice had a comparatively much larger emotional effect on the audience.
Be fore the movie I was talking with a coworker that coincidentally had also been at A Slient Voice and he was saying the girl next to him was streaming tears and I confidently told him "If you go to the movie tonight and the same girl is there, she'll be crying again."
But I'm not so sure anymore.

The weird bit of animation that caught my eye was during the "princess carry" scene where the girl looks into the face of the boy and her features sort of flattened out and her nose seemed to migrate to the side. Maybe I missed something? was it supposed to be artistic? It just looked off to me.
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I guess there's something wrong with me because the review blurb says "don't let this romantic tearjerker's extremely unusual title..." and I cut it off with "What's unusual about that title? Lady wants to eat a pancreas, clearly she's in love. Whose significant others DON'T threaten to take a body part or two?"
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Sethimothy wrote:
I guess there's something wrong with me because the review blurb says "don't let this romantic tearjerker's extremely unusual title..." and I cut it off with "What's unusual about that title? Lady wants to eat a pancreas, clearly she's in love. Whose significant others DON'T threaten to take a body part or two?"


It is a BIZARRE title which I've said all along and poked fun at.

If you watch the film, it justifies the title.
I guess it's a cultural thing in some Asian societies but the title doesn't work in English.

I liked the film. Is it the greatest film I ever saw? No, and it really didn't have to be done in animation, either, but it's still a good film.

If you've ever had family suffer through terminal disease, it's a familiar story. Those stories are far worse when the person dying isn't even middle-aged. I've known people who had diseases through the end of high school. One girl used to live in my neighborhood and had leukemia virtually her entire life. She graduated high school but didn't make it to 20...

I got the relationship between the leads. It's different but it works out in the end even if for some people it might feel false.
It's one of those stories that has a parable written within it.
At worst it's serviceable but it's still better than most of the films being shown in theaters now. I have no desire to see another superhero film and didn't feel like I wasted my time here, either.
And yes, the ending was sad but there was a plot twist at the end that NOBODY saw coming...
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 08, 2019 11:49 am Reply with quote
GeorgeC wrote:

And yes, the ending was sad but there was a plot twist at the end that NOBODY saw coming...


In that spoiler[it wasn't a truck that killed her?]
It was a decent twist but a certain part of me actually felt like laughing. It was like... Wait, what?
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Spastic Minnow wrote:
I caught the screening last night. It's not bad but it made me feel my age.
I've seen this before. I already have my favorites and not much was surprising. I reflexively teared up when MC cried but there were not really many tears in the theater. Which surprised me.


Yep, I was kind of shocked to get home and see reactions so broken-hearted since my theater was pretty blase and dry-eyed afterwards. (I was underwhelmed as well.) Towards the end, my crowd was at times almost hostile to the movie -- when Kyoko confronts the MC on the stairs and he drops his book, I heard across the theater somebody whisper, "oh, he's readying Kokoro, of course..." Snap.

It was clear to me going in that I was far outside the target demographic and I almost stayed home, but in an audience, I can sometimes get swept up in this base-emotion drama-for-teens stuff. I don't think Pancreas had anything that would have worked on me on its own, but I do wish I had been in a more affected crowd so I could have known what it was supposed to have been like.

Spastic Minnow wrote:
The weird bit of animation that caught my eye was during the "princess carry" scene where the girl looks into the face of the boy and her features sort of flattened out and her nose seemed to migrate to the side. Maybe I missed something? was it supposed to be artistic? It just looked off to me.


Heh, the whole movie was practically nose-less!
Most times, I don't get too haughty about the drawings if I can help it, but the disappearing noses was getting to me. I get that this version of "anime style" tends to blend facial features down for a flat, gauzy-focus look, but unless the characters are in profile, you're lucky to even get a dot for a nose. And then with their pencil-lining effect (I assume it was mostly finalized on a computer), the grain texture would sometimes fade out and you'd get even less nose than what was drawn. Come on, the girl's losing her life -- don't take her nose away from her too...


I get that the softness and warmth of superflat design is a big attractant for a lot of anime, but IMO it'd be good if drama directors took more care with the detail of their character designs. If you want me to believe I'm watching the story of a real girl suffering with a real disease, draw a face I can see reality in.
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I hate to be the bearer of bad tidings, but a failing pancreas is not a terminal illness. One's pancreas can be removed entirely without affecting life at all, except that the patient becomes what is known as a surgical diabetic. Life is sustained indefinitely simply with blood glucose testing and injections of the proper amount of insulin.
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Sethimothy wrote:
I guess there's something wrong with me because the review blurb says "don't let this romantic tearjerker's extremely unusual title..." and I cut it off with "What's unusual about that title? Lady wants to eat a pancreas, clearly she's in love. Whose significant others DON'T threaten to take a body part or two?"


In an interview, Johnny Depp said that when he was a teenager he once told a girl that he loved her so much he would eat the boogers from her nose. That went well, but love does make one oblivious to any lack of similar sentiment in the object of one's desire.
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 09, 2019 10:56 am Reply with quote
gridsleep wrote:
I hate to be the bearer of bad tidings, but a failing pancreas is not a terminal illness. One's pancreas can be removed entirely without affecting life at all, except that the patient becomes what is known as a surgical diabetic. Life is sustained indefinitely simply with blood glucose testing and injections of the proper amount of insulin.

This so much. It's probably pancreatic cancer, which can be fatal if discovered late, but the movie showed her as super active and eats everything without consideration... does not fit the image of a pancreatic patient at all.

Between this and other questionable developments, count me in as one of the those skeptics, even if the movie affected me more than I realize. The film itself is great at evoking emotions; the cherry blossoms and saturated colors and the theme of you don't realize how precious life is until someone is dying. But it really needed a dose of reality. A borderline self-insert MC, side characters that didn't offer much except angst and gum, and that trollish plot twist (even if it was supposedly foreshadowed, though I completely missed that foreshadow) all tear away at my suspension of disbelief.
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This so much. It's probably pancreatic cancer, which can be fatal if discovered late, but the movie showed her as super active and eats everything without consideration... does not fit the image of a pancreatic patient at all.


I agree. I read the novel and found it rather maudlin and overly syrupy. It just felt like schlocky inspiration porn similar to something like The Fault In Our Stars instead of something that tried to show someone dealing with pancreatic cancer or something similar in a human, substantial, nuanced manner, not helped by the MC being as interesting as a wooden plank. The twist ending actually hurt the movie even further for me, which makes it steer right into stupid melodrama for the sake of melodrama. I know people give Mari Okada crap about writing melodrama, but IMHO, when she does it, in some situations some angst and melodrama makes sense in context. With this kind of story, it just doesn't work.

spoiler[I mean, why even bother making her sick if you're just gonna kill her off by having some random guy murder her off screen? It not only makes her suffering and problems completely meaningless, it just makes her illness seem like little more than window dressing, and an insult to people who do have to deal with pancreatic ailments.]
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[quote="tsog"]
gridsleep wrote:

This so much. It's probably pancreatic cancer, which can be fatal if discovered late, but the movie showed her as super active and eats everything without consideration... does not fit the image of a pancreatic patient at all.


Sadly, pancreatic cancer is something you DON'T go into remission from.

They can do surgery to remove as much of the cancer as possible but you're usually looking at MAYBE up to 2 years after that.
It's a very aggressive cancer and very often spreads to neighboring organs.
When they do surgery on ANY kind of cancer, they very often don't get all of the cancer and a few cells can start multiplying and you can have problems again within months, another year.
Laser surgery is supposed to work better in that they can target the cells more specifically and you can kill fewer of the healthy cells and tissue around the cancer but nothing is 100%. I haven't read of it being used to treat pancreatic cancer. I just know from family experience that's how they dealt with my uncle's case and he maybe lived another 18 months after the surgery.
Just about everybody agrees chemo is horrible but sometimes there's no other viable way of treatment that will deal with a cancer and chemo's more effective for certain types of cancer.

I've had 2 family members die from this, my paternal grandmother and my uncle (her older son, my dad's brother). My grandmother had both pancreatic AND liver cancer so it very likely it started in the pancreas and migrated to her live. She was 82-83 when she passed away. My uncle was about 67 when his cancer killed him.

They had a very painful last few months of life and it's not something my family members like to dwell on.

People who wish cancer on others have no clue what they're talking about.

When you see people suffering from illness for months and years, it puts things in new perspective. I've had pets that got terminally ill or were old and had strokes and I NEVER wanted them to suffer for long. I made some tough calls but I did what I thought was more humane for them even though it hurt like hell to have them euthanized.

The way some people talk about death and revenge shows how utterly clueless and out of touch some people are with reality...
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 10, 2019 12:53 am Reply with quote
GeorgeC wrote:

If you've ever had family suffer through terminal disease, it's a familiar story.

I actually have, but the story still struck me as contrived at times. In both your experience and mine (my grandma had stomach cancer; multiple surgeries and even had a feeding tube inserted), the afflicted person never looked the same as Sakura did after their diagnosis. In fact, Sakura could've been afflicted with any other illness and the plot wouldn't have missed a beat (they'd have to change title to another organ though, of course).

I do get why the movie struck a chord with a lot of people (heck, probably the vast majority of them); there just aren't many anime dealing with the topic of death seriously nowadays. But it's an idealized situation where the afflicted is able to act completely normal, and to the degree that Sakura did (that she proactively dragged the MC to do all the things she wanted to do, continued to go to school, and not even show any symptoms that made her classmates suspect that something was wrong), the movie completely missed the opportunity to portray the difficulties with everyday life that terminally ill patients go through.
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 10, 2019 7:55 pm Reply with quote
Just saw this (the dubbed version) today.
I'm with Spastic Minnow, in that I found it an unaffecting version of this story. Any telling of this story is going to be contrived and manipulative, but the good ones have some heart and sincerity (I'm very fond of Your Lie in April).
I Want to Eat Your Pancreas struck me as so cynical --- And such audience pandering: Maybe a cute dying girl will recognise my own specialness too, despite my bearing no signs of it! --- that I was embarrassed to be in the audience.
And I didn't notice anyone crying when the film ended.
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