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GATSU
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Apparently, THR can't tell the difference between manga and anime.
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Harleyquin
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I take it the article limited highest grossing anime film worldwide to Japanese animation titles only, since Nezha 2 is Chinese animation and has the all-time revenue record for cinema films in history.
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andyos
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Are we really playing this game again? If you want to suggest that "Ne Zha 2" should be classified as anime, then knock yourself out, but I doubt you'll get many supporters.
Also, "all-time revenue record for cinema films" is potentially misleading. Ne Zha 2 is definitely number one for global takings for an animated film of any nationality*, but the all-time global charts I can see still have it in fifth place, behind the Avatar films, Avengers: Endgame and Titanic. [*Unless you claim the Avatar films should be classified as "animation." That's a controversial argument, but IMO less silly than calling Ne Zha 2 "anime."] |
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GATSU
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It's an accomplishment, because of how crappy Sony's year has been, outside of The Materialists, and also, because of how many live-action films it beat. Ne Zha 2 isn't a bad win, but who knows if it'll still hold up against Avatar 3? Also, it might be a while before non-Japanese Asian animation has as much as global appeal as anime. Yeah, KPop did alright on Netflix, but it would bomb in theaters if they released it directly. Just look at Turning Red, when that hit theaters, and that was nominated for an Oscar.
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Flared
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An incredible run.
Outperforming Crouching Tiger Hidden Dragon is impressive considering that film was a such a big deal back in the day. |
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Ryuji-Dono
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It can't be stopped!
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mdo7
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Really, some people or some anime fan want to label Ne Zha 2 as an anime even though the animation is not Japanese at all (the animation is not even co-produce with a Japanese animation studio, so yeah). But then again, I had some dongua fans (the one that didn't watch or have any experience with anime) that thought that The Apothecary Diaries anime is a donghua because of the Chinese-style setting. Hell, I found it more disturbing that some donghua fans labeled Fushigi Yûgi as a donghua (again, because of the Chinese setting the anime uses and not the fact the animation wasn't done in China at all). So yeah, if you got people wanting to label Ne Zha 2 as an anime, then I guess The Apothecary Diaries and Fushigi Yugi are now Donghua in some people eyes (particularly donghua fans that don't have any experience with Japanese animation). 
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enurtsol
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KDH wouldn't have done as well if it was released on theaters first because there was no hype about it coming in. Nowadays in theaters, if a film doesn't make a splash on the 1st weekend, it's forgotten by the 2nd week. There's a monthly graph of KDH mentions on publications - and it went from none to negligible on May and June pre-release to astronomical 1000+ on July and August post-release. But being in Netflix allowed it word-of-mouth to spread organically with low barrier of entry. If you've seen the graph of KDH's weekly views vs. other top Netflix shows' weekly views, the other top Netflix shows have a very big spike on the 1st and 2nd week, but then trails off from there. Meanwhile, KDH's views started out around 1/4th the views of those top shows, then grew to about 1/2 the 2nd week.............. but then it stayed there for weeks and weeks - it didn't drop below 20 million views. So not only did it alright on Netflix, it became their all-time most-watched show by a country mile (325 million views vs. #2 Squid Game's 265 million views) And now, KDH's unknown voice actresses and singers are being invited on TV shows all over the globe; its songs are still on top of the Billboard charts for months; and the most requested costumes this Halloween. It's really captured the global mainstream |
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scowler
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The article/title made clear this record is about US receipts only. Nezha 2 didn't make much money in the US. |
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jdnation
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I was expecting this to be a success, but this film really overdelivered on the financial side!
It'll be interesting to see how Chainsaw-Man does, which obviously won't be as big a hit as Demon Slayer, but I think that if it does big business too, then this really signals something and we'll hopefully see more anime more widely in the theater rather than locked to only streaming services. C'mon Gundam Hathaway 2! |
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earl_of
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In fairness to harleyquinn, ANN has been muddying the waters lately with some coverage of donghua and its adaptations (To Be Hero X is not a Japanese co-production and merely has Aniplex on as one of several distributors) and even more coverage of manhwa and webtoons. Plus ANN gave tons of coverage to K-Pop Demon Hunters despite it being a 100% western product (a South Korean one would have been very different, starting with far more feminine and traditionally attractive character and costume designs for the main trio and a heavier emphasis on romance, family and tradition). |
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mdo7
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I'll make this more interesting, what if I told you that Myanimelist/MAL has refused to classify Scott Pilgrim Takes Off as anime while other like Anilist, and AniDB has already recognized that title as anime when MAL refused to put it in their database. Meanwhile, Anilist has recognized The Lord of the Rings anime film as anime in their database while MAL, & AniDB doesn't have this film as anime on their database respectively. It's not only ANN that sort of muddying the water, but websites like MAL, Anilist, and AniDB has also been muddying the definition of anime on how they determine on which Japanese anime get added on their database entries. I mean have you ever watched Tokyo Override? Despite being a Japanese co-production, no anime database websites (MAL, Anilist, and AniDB) have put this film on their database despite being produced by Japanese, and the original voice is Japanese. So why this isn't classified as anime by the 3 database websites is quite baffling to me. If you want to talk about muddying the water, then you can discuss it here. |
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