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teferi



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PostPosted: Tue Oct 23, 2007 7:16 pm Reply with quote
The summary for Gothic Sports makes my thinking part hurt.
Where do people come up with this stuff? "inspirational Gothic Lolita jersey design" sounds like an oxymoron O_o

Other than that, I hadn't even know Togari was being released yet. It's just weird that viz is licensing all those short shounen titles I've always wanted but never thought would get licensed. Definitely picking it up ^^
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here-and-faraway



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PostPosted: Tue Oct 23, 2007 7:18 pm Reply with quote
Thank you for not lumping FMA as "junk food" reading just because it's so popular.

Also, I'm glad to see Just My Luck reviewed. I have to admit that I bought it because of the artist. Not the best storyline, but you hit the nail on the head when you talked about the KKM connection.
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Dragynstorm



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PostPosted: Tue Oct 23, 2007 7:33 pm Reply with quote
Re: Muhyo

Ugly, juvenile artwork? Well, it's not the best art in the world, but I personally think it's far from ugly or juvenile. The series is just starting and I believe that this is the mangaka's first major work, so of course quirks are still being worked out and the art still has a way to go. I didn't start to read the series for mind-blowing art, I started to read it because it didn't look like most cookie-cutter Shounen Jump series. The art was different enough to attract my attention. I guess that might just be my preference, but I think bashing the artwork like that is a bit too harsh. The color pages for Muhyo and Rouji are some of my favorites out of everything I've seen in Jump... they're composed well and the use of colors makes me insanely jealous. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder, I guess.

The artwork does improve a lot as the series goes on, and the story does jump from being an "adventure of the week" to a true tale worth reading.

Scathing reviews make me sad. D=

Also: Togari <3
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Maidenoftheredhand



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PostPosted: Tue Oct 23, 2007 9:17 pm Reply with quote
I am not sure if Fullmetal Alchemist is the best manga (I hate using the term best) but it is definitely my absolute favorite series at the moment. So thanks for the positive review. While Fullmetal Alchemist is certainly popular I think the manga gets less attention than the anime which I think is ashame.
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CatzCradle



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There's something seriously wrong with a BL story when the sex scenes feel tacked-on.


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Admittedly, this is the whole point of the genre



Umm...But doesn't BL (or Boy's love) mean shounen ai? I think you've mistaken that for yaoi... BL is more about the story between the characters rather that having sex like yaoi...
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kazenoyume



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PostPosted: Tue Oct 23, 2007 9:45 pm Reply with quote
I'm extremely pleased to see the FMA manga listed there! I feel like the anime often gets more credit than the original source material which I simply don't understand.

The FMA manga deserves its popularity.
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bahamut623



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PostPosted: Tue Oct 23, 2007 10:57 pm Reply with quote
Dragynstorm wrote:
Re: Muhyo


The artwork does improve a lot as the series goes on, and the story does jump from being an "adventure of the week" to a true tale worth reading.


Can you give me an idea of what direction the story heads in (spoiler tags of course), because I've been on the fence about this series mainly because I can't quite get a grasp on it. I dunno, I'm just interested in how the story plays out in the long run.

I don't think the art is bad by any means, just a tad bland, nothing really catches my eye from what I've seen, except for some cooky creatures here and there, and Muhyo himself seems likable.
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minakichan



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PostPosted: Wed Oct 24, 2007 12:54 am Reply with quote
Man, I am this close to picking up Gothic Sports. Sure, it seems kind of trashy, but at the same time, it seems like intriguing... trash. The review has planted me firmly on the fence.

I think we all know that Fullmetal Alchemist is mainstream yet very good. Can you review more stuff that many of us might not have heard of? I really enjoy reading those reviews because you often introduce a lot of gold (or a lot of utter crap, in the case of "Worst Manga Ever Read") that most woudl normally overlook. <3
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Dragynstorm



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PostPosted: Wed Oct 24, 2007 1:02 am Reply with quote
bahamut623 wrote:
Can you give me an idea of what direction the story heads in (spoiler tags of course), because I've been on the fence about this series mainly because I can't quite get a grasp on it. I dunno, I'm just interested in how the story plays out in the long run.


Okay, I'll do my best, but since my Japanese is pretty shoddy, I can't promise how accurate this will be.

spoiler[Muhyo encounters one of his old classmates and finds out he wants to take down the magical association. This guy gets some crazy magic-users and demons on his side (*shudder* Face-Peeler Sophie still scares me), so (of course) Muhyo, Roji, and their friends must try to stop them. The story is interesting and fun, but the plot isn't really a new amazing thing. I think the real strength in the story is Roji's development and his growth as a magic-user.]

Hope that helps a little... I'm not very good at these things. D=
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Nermal



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PostPosted: Wed Oct 24, 2007 1:19 am Reply with quote
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How far would you go for your fandom?


I'm buying a melodica so I can play Rhapsody in Blue!!! Very Happy
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Akukaze



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PostPosted: Wed Oct 24, 2007 2:36 am Reply with quote
CatzCradle wrote:
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There's something seriously wrong with a BL story when the sex scenes feel tacked-on.


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Admittedly, this is the whole point of the genre

Umm...But doesn't BL (or Boy's love) mean shounen ai? I think you've mistaken that for yaoi... BL is more about the story between the characters rather that having sex like yaoi...

No offense, but you're the one who has been mislead by the American fan community's labels. There is no porn/not porn distinction in Japan, it's all BL.

The sooner American fans do away with the shonen-ai and yaoi labels, the better.
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astroasis



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PostPosted: Wed Oct 24, 2007 9:24 am Reply with quote
Akukaze wrote:
CatzCradle wrote:
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There's something seriously wrong with a BL story when the sex scenes feel tacked-on.


Quote:
Admittedly, this is the whole point of the genre

Umm...But doesn't BL (or Boy's love) mean shounen ai? I think you've mistaken that for yaoi... BL is more about the story between the characters rather that having sex like yaoi...

No offense, but you're the one who has been mislead by the American fan community's labels. There is no porn/not porn distinction in Japan, it's all BL.

The sooner American fans do away with the shonen-ai and yaoi labels, the better.


Better for who? Shocked I mean, it doesn't seem like this is an important issue, by any means.
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The Ramblin' Wreck



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PostPosted: Wed Oct 24, 2007 9:55 am Reply with quote
I guess we'll just have to disagree on Princess Resurrection. I think it's a fairly nice romp into the Hammer-style genre of monsters.
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Strephon



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PostPosted: Wed Oct 24, 2007 1:59 pm Reply with quote
kazenoyume wrote:
I'm extremely pleased to see the FMA manga listed there! I feel like the anime often gets more credit than the original source material which I simply don't understand.


Well, the anime did come out seven months before the manga in the US (not counting fansubs/scanslations, of course, though fansubs tend to get seen by more people anyway), and people's impressions are often colored by what they see first. For someone who was following both as they came out in the US, the anime wrapped up around the same time volume 6 of the manga came out, so the manga hadn't offered much up to that point that hadn't been in the anime--it's not until after that point that they unmistakably diverge.
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Andrew Cunningham



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PostPosted: Wed Oct 24, 2007 3:05 pm Reply with quote
Princess Resurrection keeps getting all these scathing reviews. Sure, it's a guilty pleasure at best, but it's just too much fun to generate a score that low.

Muhyo does have art issues, mainly the odd layout concern where he really should have redrawn a page entirely but mysteriously didn't bother. But the monster and spell design more than makes up for it.

I really dug the original short story (If I recall correctly, the final one here) and remember being a little disappointed with the writing early on, with lots of inconsequential short stories and distinct tendency to revel in schmaltz.
But once the arc plot kicks in things gradually begin to get impressively epic. I definitely recommend sticking with it.
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