Forum - View topic"What's Wrong With Dragon Ball Z?"
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Arcwave
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Interesting: http://anime.ign.com/articles/865/865869p1.html
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Top Gun
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I can't really speak for the article, but I do know that seeing 30 minutes of two bulging, glowing men yelling and grunting at each other nonstop way back when on Cartoon Network gave me a lovely negative stereotype of "anime" that dissuaded me from even remotely considering watching it for a good two or three years afterwards. So yeah...not a fan.
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headpower
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we get bleach filler, we get naruto filler, those are back in the days filler eps.
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r-18
 Posts: 62 Location: northren oregon |
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Right up front " sorry about the spelling "
Now for the rest of the story: i really liked the original season of DB with goku and bulma looking for the dragon balls for their own reasons and the pig with the panties on his head cracked me up. It was inventive and unexpected in the way all the things happened along the way and the " end " was good . i really enjoyed all the crazy stuff even the over the top fight scenes. but dbz etc... was not as good to me 2 or 3 or more guys wailing on each other for the whole show Every show was not very entertaining except to those who like pro wrestling, and if that's you more power to you we all have different tastes and i will not bash or degrade those who like Dbz i just don't. now some have said that smack down is not all there is to it if so I'd like to hear from the DBZ defenders . perhaps I'm wrong or did not give it a chance following DB and being so different may have colored my perception and cause me to reject it unfairly. it may be that if i was not holding DB up as comparison i might get into it, unlikely but who knows so the defenders of DBZ change my mind I'm open to conversion but with so much out there it might take some persuasion. |
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sj21
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This is my third favourite season and the only problem is the way they make these little adventure fillers. like when bulma dropped the dragonball in the lake and wouldn't get her feet wet to save the world in season 2. But i love the series.
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sj21
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We don't really get bleach fillers. I mean during rukia's execution they had flashbacks, but those flashbacks were very good. Especially were spoiler[lieutenant Shiba dies and turns hollow.] [EDIT: Spoiler tags added.~Zalis] |
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Daemonblue
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What are you talking about, from ~ ep 64 to ~ ep 108 was all filler. Last edited by Daemonblue on Thu Apr 17, 2008 4:00 pm; edited 1 time in total |
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Squirtle2000
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I can see there is many problems with series such as DBZ, Naruto, Bleach, etc. but for some reason these are still all my favorite shows. I get a different kind of feeling from watching these shows that I don't get from watching regular series.
I check out all the recommendations of the supposedly best series and think they are okay and get a little bored so I would never watch them again. But I am also the kind of person who likes cheesy comedies and also movies that people label as crap. I would watch a movie and think its really good, then read a few reviews after and all the critics say they are crap so I guess my 'bad' taste transfers over to Anime. 
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Vuwazy
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Oh please.
Snub. You're wrong and I don't think you have given it much chance. You're not the only one. There are many others who imply the same type of thing. DBZ has too many haters. Every once in a while these kind of threads come up. I grow annoyed of all the hate threads around here. Will there never be an end to this madness? DBZ is getting so underrated nowdays it's not even funny. |
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sj21
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Sorry, haven't seen those episodes yet, well i guess thats why the manga don't have the fillers. [quote="Squirtle2000"][quote="sj21"] Squirtle2000 wrote: I can see there is many problems with series such as DBZ,Naruto,Bleach etc. but for some reason these are still all my favorite shows. I get a different kind of feeling from watching these shows that i get from watching regular series. I totally agree, i don't care how many fillers, i just love them. Its impossible for me to hate them. And then when it does get to the action it seems that all you people complaining haven't seen the action. So if you haven't then stop ranting about these series.
sorry, still don't get quoting-master lee. |
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Arcwave
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Part II is now up: http://anime.ign.com/articles/866/866063p1.html
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Kruszer
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My problem with a lot shounen fighting series, Dragonball Z included, is their repetitiveness. With most of them if you've seen one of the arcs you've seen them all they all just play out with the same formula. The best ones are those that manage to keep things interesting and fairly original. The ones I like the most are usually the shorter ones that are better planned out like Buso Renkin, Claymore, Fullmetal Alchemist, Kaze no Stigma, and Scryed. However, I have made a few exceptions and was quite impressed with Rurouni Kenshin and Yu Yu Hakusho's abillity to keep things from going stale. Currently, I'm liking what I've seen of Bleach, and D.Gray-Man as well.
As for Dragonball Z as a series I don't really hate it in fact it was my gateway anime and a passion of mine for quite a while. However, then I saw other stuff and my tastes evolved to prefer things with more story substance and I started seeing it's flaws. However, I can't say that I've ever (nor do I want to) grown out of enjoying a good shounen anime beat down which is why I suppose I still keep an eye out for the occasional diomond in the rough. 
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r-18
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Vuwazy there is a whole world between hate and not liking i never said i hated DBZ it's just with so much else available and limited time i just did not get into DBZ i know plenty do, so what's the problem. I can't really see what anyone likes or dislikes has to do with anyone else, if you like it watch it i don't so i won't. Peace dude there is enough anime for all of us.
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MokonaModoki
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It's problematic to qualify that as filler just because it wasn't in the manga. Those episodes constituted a fully developed continuous story arc. It's more of an alternate storyline than it is mere 'filler', not least because it irrevocably changed the sequence in which certain events from the manga were presented (and reincorporated them into the alternate telling). You can't really skip the episodes without missing something. This is also similar to principle that says that it isn't correct to call the second half of the Fullmetal Alchemist anime 'filler'. Naruto filler literally 'fills' the untold story time that Naruto is supposed to be somewhere else doing something else entirely with someone else (yes, I couldn't be bothered with writing a spoiler to tag). It's just an incoherent sequence of vignettes that don't progress the story in any meaningful direction at all. You can miss 95% of the filler without missing anything important to the overall story. DBZ filler, on the other hand, just fills time. When an episode begins with only 2 minutes until a planet is supposed to explode, and said explosion doesn't happen until a couple of episodes later, it's pretty obvious what is really going on. You can skip 5 episodes at a time with a high likelihood that the exact same thing will still be happening. |
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IchigoK90
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Just as a suggestion, watch Hajime No Ippo. Its repetition done correctly. As for Dragonball Z itself my only problem was the lack of depth towards the meaning of the fighting. It was really just "save a world from the big bad alien/robot/evil being" every arc. |
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