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Bern73
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If an Amazon dub isn't outright AI generated then nowadays it's outsourced for cheap to an inexperienced (to put it generously) studio. Shame.
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Greed1914
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Yeah, it's pretty disappointing that Amazon continues to do this. They can obviously afford to go to studios like Bang Zoom, and if they insist on avoiding union costs, then places like Sound Cadence give access to the Dallas area talent pool. |
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veemonjosh
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Sanda had a pretty good dub from Bang Zoom last season, and Gundam Quuuuuux was a NYAV Post dub. So not every dub from Amazon is this cheap, but it is unfortunate when it happens to a show that could've used more care. |
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ChibiGoku
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Gundam may have been handled directly through Sunrise, as NYAV Post tends to be their go to (with the exception of Witch, which CR handled themselves for Sunrise), but your point still stands. Amazon has done a lot of good dubs with various studios, and I'm just absolutely baffled what happened here. Especially given this was a notably anticipated series, I can't imagine why they'd spend a lot of money licensing it only to cheapen out on localizing the damn thing. At least with Netflix, they are almost always Union dubs for their simuldubs, unless handled by the Japanese or a third party is involved. And even then, those dubs turn out really well. |
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Animegomaniac
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I do like how Ava spelled out "I am 'WOMAn'" but the lead scientist immediately dismissed it without a second of hesitation.
It's probably not the first time she tried it. As to what it means... exactly that. I didn't accept the show's base assertation that Charlie is a sterile specimen, what's Darwin about that Charlie? I'm calling him a mutation until I'm told "oh no, his species ends with him". So far the show's been a hilarious satire but I'm not going to comment on the vegan aspect unless the show gets serious about it, not one repped by its mass murdering Anon/Anonymous fronted conspiracy group working under the phrase "All Lives Matter" Sorry, I mean All Animals Matter. Psst... It's poking fun at the Right. Setting it in America is just the cherry on top right now. |
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residentgrigo
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I got curious after seeing the strength feat with the prison bar and the stuff later in the manga and an adult gorilla could absolutely bend such bars or lift a car. The hybrid speed and resistance shown in the manga is superhero stuff but the strength isn´t. A hybrid inheriting too many of certain genes leading to excessive growth or strength, Tokoy Ghoul has this, has an easy example with the Liger.
The author clearly wants his V for Vendetta/Watchman to include the rule of cool too, like the movies, which is the one thing I can hold against the work. Not unusual with Seinen thrillers. Even Monster gives into macho man action shlock. |
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Alphael
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I've been following the manga and have been enjoying it. It reminds me of older sci-fi series set in America like "Sci-Fi Harry" complete with the boy-meets-girl storyline. The villains basically being PETA and similar animal rights activists still amuses me to this day. I think the adaption so far is okay. Some of the animation is kind of wonky. I wonder if the anime will be popular.
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Gina Szanboti
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What I don't like about Lucy is the patronizing way she treats Charlie as his self-appointed personal savior, grabbing his arm and dragging him off whenever she feels it necessary. Obviously he could resist if he cared to, but she never asks him what he wants, never seeks his input, never acknowledges that he has any agency of his own at all.
It's not clear whether the writers are aware that there are problems with her paternalistic attitude toward him as needing her protection, and how she treats him like a prop in her Disney drama wherein she's Esmeralda to Charlie's Quasimodo, or if this will be addressed later or ever. |
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residentgrigo
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The most recent school shooting in America was in Maryland, a day before ep 6 aired, so the late-2020/early-2021 manga script will never age. They now occur near daily in America, according to Statista. You can turn the topic into absolute trash like 13 Reasons Why, use it as background noise like Hiroya Oku or frame it as social commentary. The subject is so done to death in American comics that Spider-Man stopped one while he was a teacher during JMS’s run in the early 00s. Not a special issue or anything either. The shooter was a bullied kid but aren’t they all? Absolute Batman had an annual last year where he butchered a white power clan to touch on the other topic, with artist/author Daniel Warren Johnson posting fan art of Batman executing an ICE agent around the time of release. Even The Batman was about a black-pill uprising, the most effective part of the film, so hardly anyone would even notice The Darwin Incident’s content if it were published outside Japan.
The last clear-cut school shooting I remember in anime was in Inuyashiki (2017), but the adaptation covered 10 volumes in 11 eps, so it’s basically blink-and-you-miss-it. The manga devotes thrice the time to it but it´s still Hiroya Oku at the helm. |
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Wizardizar
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G-Witch has kind of a school shooting episode, except it's with a gundam, and it's tangled with a revenge/terrorist/coup plot. |
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Alphael
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I think Gare's online handle is fitting. "Red Pill" is just a term meaning you've woken up to the truth or reality of the world. i.e. "What red pilled you?" In this case it's just him being an activist for animal rights and veganism and is aware of the "truth" that eating meat is wrong. His room is littered with posters about "Revolution" and his stream chat even parrots the usual "We're on the right side of history" mantra and his quip of "How do you expect I defeat slavery without pissing off the slave owners" self-rightousness. It seems very fitting for a dude like him.
I thought Batman had a no-kill rule but I haven't read comics since the 2000s so maybe that's changed? I think the series is doing a good job highlighting the fact that plenty of people who have convinced themselves that if they're on the 'right side of history' then there's zero issue doing extremism. I'd rather not get too into real-world politics and issues but like just reading recent news from this year and last year one can probably find plenty of cases where people have tried to justify murder and violence because "they're the bad guys, it's ok to kill them, I'm doing a good thing" "Red Pill Gabe" is just living out the fantasy we've seen in the news quite a lot recently. Him killing innocent students is because because he was radicalized by Max in that his actions are justified because it's for the better of protecting a marginalized group. So in that regard I have to very strongly disagree that this series doesn't stand out if it was published outside of Japan. I think the Darwin Incident stands out compare to American media because it's basically doing the opposite of what we usually see out of American media on these subjects based on the examples you described. It would stand out even more if an American wrote it but it's probably because this is from an outside perspective of someone from Japan looking at America the past number of years that they're writing it this way I can't think of a piece of American media that's doing what The Darwin Incident is doing currently which was why I initially got interested in it. |
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ATastySub
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School shooters are statistically the bullies, not the bullied. The idea of poor bullied kids breaking and doing violence was pushed after Columbine, because no one wanted to confront the actual issue was that the two were white supremacists who did exactly what that ideology wants. Instead it was easier to label them as “ostracized due to bullying” and not the actual reason they were outsiders in the school which is they were open Nazis so other students wanted nothing to do with them. |
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Gina Szanboti
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Where Christopher is more interested in the sociological/political aspects of the story, I think what has perhaps bugged me more about this series is that it seems to think Darwin's ideas are the current prevailing theory on evolution. But the only people who think he still has anything to say on the topic are creationists who, having nothing new to add to the discussion, are stuck arguing against his long outdated theories.
Of course Darwin was important in breaking open new avenues of thought, just as Mendel was for inheritance, but we've gone so far beyond both of them (and shown numerous concepts that they got flat out wrong) that they're practically footnotes to modern evolutionary biologists and geneticists. Having Rivera wax delusional about how Charlie would accelerate the "shift to Darwinism," as if that wouldn't be a huge step backwards, just added fuel to my irritation with this show. I guess I can't even figure out what that's supposed to mean, since it seems like the series views Darwinism as already being the final, accepted word on how the world works. |
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Betty Sue Dubroski
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I have no idea what Shun Umezawa's beef with vegans is but it's resulted in a fairly interesting show. I love Charlie's laid back attitude and reluctance to get involved in people's fights and just wants to live a normal life with his human girlfriend.
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yeehaw
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Did she fudge that monkey?
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