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Yuki555
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Does anyone here know if there's a chance that Vision of Escaflowne will have another season? If you've seen it, you'll know the ending just doesn't make sense.
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ÄlveKatt
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I don't think it will. I seem to recall that the makers have said that they have no intention of making another season. I think the ending DO make sence though. Even if it is a bit rushed. |
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Tomoyo714
 Posts: 73 Location: NY State |
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I don't know I thought the ending made sense???
Anyway I doubt they will make a second season because I recall reading somewhere that it wasn't a very popular series in Japan and was actually more popular over here (if this is wrong please don't flame me...this is just what I read  )
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Aaron White
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Posts: 1365 Location: Birmingham, Alabama |
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That might be an interesting and useful feature for the Encyclopedia; Financial info on how much anime cost/profited.
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JELEINEN
 Posts: 253 Location: Iowa |
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The series is what, over six years old now? I don't see Kawamori going back to it any time in the foreseeable future. I also highly disagree that the ending didn't make sense. It made perfect sense to me. |
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avius viator
 Posts: 101 Location: Ohio |
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Yeah, the ending made sense to me too, but I understand why some people were not satisified with it. Personally, I very much liked it.
As for a second season... highly unlikely. My understanding was also that it wasn't very popular in Japan, though it did recieve sucess here. This success prompted the movie, which Kawamori had little interaction with (I believe he did the screen play on the series). I think that Kawamori wanted to leave it, but some of the team really wanted to do the movie. But that is probably the end of it. (If I recall correctly, some of this info was included in the movie's special edition extras). |
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Dan42
Chief Encyclopedist
 Posts: 3816 Location: Montreal |
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Yeah, rushed indeed. Escaflowne was originally planned for 39 episodes, but because it wasn't popular enough in Japan it was scaled back to 26 episodes. So if you get the feeling that the pacing was off in the last few episodes, it's because it was supposed to continue and they had to rush the ending. I do wonder what would have been different with 13 more episodes... |
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ÄlveKatt
Posts: 96 Location: Sweden |
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Same here. I would have liked seeing more of Jajuka. Further development between him and Dilandau would have been nice to see. I am pretty sure they would have had that, the way Jajukas loyalty and love for Dilandau is portrayed feels like it was intended to happen over a longer period of time than a few scenes in just a couple of episodes. I have a feeling we would have seen a Dilandau that becomes increasingly unstable and a Jajuka that desperately tries to care for him and keep him from hurting himself. |
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Aaron White
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Posts: 1365 Location: Birmingham, Alabama |
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I'm not trying to jump on Jeleinen, but it's a pet peeve of mine that all Shoji Kawamori has to do is design a few robots and show up for some plotting sessions, and all the fans think he single-handedly created, wrote, directed, produced, animated, designed, did all the voices and personally shrink-wrapped all the DVDs. Same deal with Macross Plus, created by a bunch of then-unknowns who went on to create Cowboy Bebop with LADIES AND GENTLEMEN PUT YOUR HANDS TOGETHER FOR SHOJI KAWAMORI! An armada of talented people worked on these shows, but only LET'S HEAR IT FOR HIM FOLKS THE ONE AND ONLY SHOJI KAWAMORI gets any credit for them. Yet whenever LET'S SEE IF WE CAN BRING HIM BACK FOR JUST ONE MORE ROBOT LADIES AND GENTLEMEN SHOJI KAWAMORI actually writes and directs something by himself the results, like Spring and Chaos, is flaccid. Which indicates, to me, that he may be a valuable team player, but he shouldn't be given sole credit for the successful projects he works on. |
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Louie-kun
 Posts: 420 Location: I'm back. |
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Question. Does Fox still have the rights to Escaflowne on tv? They only showed three episodes and then cancelled it. And if they still do, when do the rights expire?
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Dan42
Chief Encyclopedist
Posts: 3816 Location: Montreal |
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Nah, I'm pretty sure they showed more than 3 episodes, but I'm not quite sure how many. This is complicated by the editing. Do you mean how many episodes did they air or how many original episodes the material came from? I mean, the 10 or so episodes aired actually came from episodes 2-13, or something like that. Now THAT is butchering (as mentionned in another thread). Kyle would have gone crazy trying to list all the edits.
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Yuki555
Posts: 164 Location: Georgia |
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 Wow, everyone actually like the ending? Maybe I'm just one of the odd ones, but that ending didn't make any sense to me. Why would Hitomi return home when there's nothing for her there. I mean, poor Van!
I didn't know the series was that old, I really like it still. I can't believe it wasn't a big thing in Japan...weird. I'm still hoping they would make another season, like Sailor Moon. |
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JELEINEN
Posts: 253 Location: Iowa |
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I realize he wasn't the only person who made the show, but it's my understanding that he was the primary creative force behind the series. I certainly think that the results of a second Escaflowne series would be less than the original if he wasn't involved. Not that I'm a total Kawamori fanboy; I'd rather gouge my eyes out than have to watch Arjuna ever again. That said, I agree there is a tendency to give one person total credit in film making. I remember seeing some sort of documentary once that talked about how Hollywood has intentionally promoted the role of director as the singular creative power in films in order to help promote movies as art (people associate art with a single artist, not artists). Other examples include Empire Strikes Back being accredited to Geroge Lucas who neither wrote nor directed the film. In anime how many people automatically assume every Ghibli film is directed by Miyazaki and everything Production IG does is from Oshii? I really don't think it's that big of a deal though. Just the way things are. |
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avius viator
Posts: 101 Location: Ohio |
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I checked the encyclopedia and Kawamori's name is listed as the sole playwright. Which would also imply he is the series creator (since there is no separate line for that). However, on the back of the DVDs credit is give to Hajime Yatate (the Sunrise team) as well. Perhaps that is where some of the confusion lies in this case? But, yes, often credit is unfairly given to one person... but its kind of like refrencing a technical paper or book with many authors... you often name the lead author and use the ambiguous "et. al." to encompass everyone else. Its easier and more efficent to remember one name I guess...
Yeah it was eps 2-11 I think. I'm usually soft on editing, but in this case it was cut up pretty badly. I mean skipping the first episode because they were afraid to have too strong of a female lead character (the demographic showed viewers perfer male leads) was annoying. On the up side, it allowed me to sample the series before I bought it... its now one of my favorites.
SPOILER WARNING I agree that the ending was a bit rushed. But I liked that it wasn't quite the sappy happy ending that it could have been. They where content with their love for each other... knowing that was all they needed. Logically, would 15 year old Hitomi really abandon her friends, family, and world? As they said at the end... they could see each other whenever they wanted.... This post is getting long enough so maybe I should leave it at that, before I get into a big analysis of it. |
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Aaron White
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Posts: 1365 Location: Birmingham, Alabama |
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I know the encyclopedia gives him big credit, but the Anime Encyclopedia lists dozens of writers, directors and designers who worked on the series, I think Kawamori gets big name-over-the-title credit because he's a celeb in the field, rather than because he's the key person behind it.
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