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4272jonathan



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PostPosted: Tue Mar 14, 2006 4:43 pm Reply with quote
Hi all!
I've been watching anime for a decent amount of time, but I only recently began to reading some manga. I am currently reading Bleach, and Death Note because they have no anime counterparts, and Excel Saga because I heard it was darker, with more subtle sarcastic humor than the anime. I was wondering how many of you read the manga version of an anime if there is an anime version available. Are the mangas usually different from the animes? What are your purposes for reading manga as opposed to just watching the anime. Also-- I really enjoy Death Note; Any recommendations for another series I should check out??
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KyoKun



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PostPosted: Tue Mar 14, 2006 4:47 pm Reply with quote
I really hate to break it to you, Bleach has an anime counterpart Anime smile + sweatdrop', and it quite long, (still running), and Death Note, there are plans for a live action movie.
Yes almost every manga there is has an anime counterpart, or there has'nt been one yet.

And yes, if you like Deathnote and Bleach, i recommend and of the shonen jump series.
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marie-antoinette



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PostPosted: Tue Mar 14, 2006 7:31 pm Reply with quote
4272jonathan wrote:
Are the mangas usually different from the animes? What are your purposes for reading manga as opposed to just watching the anime.


In almost all cases, yes, the manga usually are different from the anime. Some are fairly close, while others deviate completely in regards to storyline. At very least, I have never seen an anime that didn't cut out at least part of the manga it was based off. It's very similar to how North American movies are often based off books, but are not strict adaptations.

I read manga because 9 times out of 10 I find it better than the anime, especially in the area of character development.
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ShadrachAnki



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PostPosted: Tue Mar 14, 2006 8:25 pm Reply with quote
4272jonathan wrote:
I was wondering how many of you read the manga version of an anime if there is an anime version available.

Most of the time I will read the manga version as well as watching the anime version. However, over half of the manga series I read have no anime counterpart, so it's difficult for me to accurately judge how often this really happens.

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Are the mangas usually different from the animes?

The differences between the manga and anime versions of a series seem to depend fairly heavily on a number of factors, including the target demographic and the studio that picks the series up. Most of the Shonen Jump titles (One Piece, Naruto, Bleach, etc) seem to have anime counterparts that stick very closely to the manga. However, there are plenty of series where the two versions diverge on multiple points.

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What are your purposes for reading manga as opposed to just watching the anime.

Well, to put it bluntly, I've always been more of a reader than a watcher, even though I got into anime before I got into manga. A volume of manga is much easier to transport than an anime series, and you don't need any specialized electronic equipment in order to read it.

As I've noted before, over half the manga series I read have no anime counterpart. This does, admittedly, throw off my calculations when answering this question; if I want to enjoy the series, I can only do so by reading it. But for the manga with anime counterparts, my reasons for reading and watching are a mix between wanting to see how the two versions differ and wanting to get a better idea of the full story.

Finally, when it comes to recommendations, I would have to say that some of the other Shonen Jump titles may interest you. Another thing you could try is checking to see which of your favorite anime have manga available in English, and then see what other manga series are in the same genre/line as the series you like.

~Shadrach Anki
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HitokiriShadow



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PostPosted: Tue Mar 14, 2006 11:33 pm Reply with quote
4272jonathan wrote:
I was wondering how many of you read the manga version of an anime if there is an anime version available.


Usually if I like an anime I will read the manga counterpart and vice versa.

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Are the mangas usually different from the animes?


There will always be some differences just like there will always be some differences in movie adaptations of books. Some scenes or lines may be removed or some added. To what extent they differ varies.

Usually, the anime will follow the manga it is based on pretty closely with the biggest differences being the inclusion of extra episodes to buy time while the manga gets farther ahead and sometimes early endings if the anime gets cancelled (like Rurouni Kenshin) or the anime has a preset amount of episodes and can't cover everything (Gantz and Samurai Deeper Kyo are good examples).

There are some anime that decide to diverge significantly from their manga counterpart. For example, the Fullmetal Alchemist anime eventually stops following the manga (which is still going) and makes its own story. The Ultra Maniac and Fullmoon wo Sagashite anime differ significantly from their manga version. In those cases, things were changed and added to make the series longer.

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What are your purposes for reading manga as opposed to just watching the anime.


Usually, the manga has much more of the story than the anime and does it better as well. As a general rule of thumb, manga will be superior to its anime adaptation.

That is a large reason why I read manga in addition to (or sometimes instead of) the anime version.

And of course there are plenty of manga that just don't have anime.

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Also-- I really enjoy Death Note; Any recommendations for another series I should check out??


If you like Bleach, check out Yu Yu Hakusho and Flame of Recca.

I really can't think of anything to recommend like Death Note though. It's a very unique manga



KyoKun wrote:

Yes almost every manga there is has an anime counterpart, or there has'nt been one yet.


There are tons of manga that have not gotten an anime adaptation and never will for whatever reason. Not all manga gets turned into anime. There are far, far more manga than anime.
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4272jonathan



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PostPosted: Wed Mar 15, 2006 3:28 pm Reply with quote
Thanks for all the helpful info everyone. I appreciate it.
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Assassin_



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PostPosted: Fri Mar 17, 2006 5:30 am Reply with quote
4272jonathan wrote:
Hi all!
I've been watching anime for a decent amount of time, but I only recently began to reading some manga. I am currently reading Bleach, and Death Note because they have no anime counterparts, and Excel Saga because I heard it was darker, with more subtle sarcastic humor than the anime.

Um... am I hearing you right? Bleach? No anime?

Anime smile;;

anime#4240

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And yes, if you like Deathnote and Bleach, i recommend and of the shonen jump series.

cept mabey One Piece *cough* ultimate corniness *cough* or Hikaru No Go

Narutos good though, and Shaman King and Yu Yu Hakusho (2 VERY similar series...) are ok.

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It's very similar to how North American movies are often based off books, but are not strict adaptations.

*cough* Harry Potter, the films murdered it *cough*

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There will always be some differences just like there will always be some differences in movie adaptations of books.

Or novelisations of movies. Sometimes books based off movies are a lot better than there film counterparts - has anyone red the Star Wars ep 3 book?

As for reesons for reading more manga than watching anime, licensed anime is a HELL of a lot more expensive than manga ¬_¬
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marie-antoinette



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PostPosted: Fri Mar 17, 2006 9:53 am Reply with quote
Assassin_ wrote:

Or novelisations of movies. Sometimes books based off movies are a lot better than there film counterparts - has anyone red the Star Wars ep 3 book?


It's very rare that a novelization of a movie is better than the movie itself, but I must agree in the case of all the Star Wars prequel novelizations, since they don't strictly follow what is IN the movie (and the Revenge of the Sith one is just OMG amazing, definitely one of the best books I've read all year).
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Larrix



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PostPosted: Sun Mar 19, 2006 10:42 pm Reply with quote
Larrix: I think Anime and Manga is very different. To me Manga is better than Anime because most anime is ha ha Smile uncensored Very Happy. But on the other hand Anime is better than Manga because you can finaly see how the characters actually look like in colour and hear how they sound like.
Pluse now these days the books have been very different from the movies [/quote]Case in point
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They Murdered Harry Potter
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Kagemusha



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PostPosted: Sun Mar 19, 2006 11:03 pm Reply with quote
They're both pretty diffrent mediums; shows that may make really great animes probobly wouldn't work as well without the music, animation, or a large team of creative input. I prefer manga as a medium and also think there more high quality manga out there. While alot of the titles I like would probobly never be animated, I often don't bother to see the ones that are since they're usually inferior, though there are always exceptions (Fullmetal Alchemist, Mushishi).
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HitokiriTaijiya



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PostPosted: Mon Mar 20, 2006 12:35 am Reply with quote
I've been a manga nut since I picked up the manga version of an anime that I liked, read it and saw how much was left out and altered. Usually I like what I know first, but when I read the manga version, I thought it was so much better! I even gave up on the anime because it kept having filler arcs.

My new policy is not to watch an anime till I've read its manga first.
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barfing_bunnies



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PostPosted: Mon Mar 20, 2006 4:53 pm Reply with quote
There are som many factors when it comes to anime vs manga. I personally think that the translation and overall experience really make a difference. Some popular manga that are better than the anime:
Hellsing
Rurouni Kenshin
Naruto
One Piece
Shaman King


Some popular anime that shadow the manga:
FMA (I think that it had less unwanted comical intrusions that the manga had)
NGE (overall experience is different because NGE is kind of an "all senses" thing)
All Gundam series
Wolf's Rain
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Assassin_



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PostPosted: Tue Mar 21, 2006 7:03 am Reply with quote
marie-antoinette wrote:
Assassin_ wrote:

Or novelisations of movies. Sometimes books based off movies are a lot better than there film counterparts - has anyone red the Star Wars ep 3 book?


It's very rare that a novelization of a movie is better than the movie itself, but I must agree in the case of all the Star Wars prequel novelizations, since they don't strictly follow what is IN the movie (and the Revenge of the Sith one is just OMG amazing, definitely one of the best books I've read all year).

lol yeah

It also makes the film itself a lot more enjoyable, if you read it beforehand, because you understand a lot more of whats going on

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I'm sorry, but SD Gundam SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO doesn't deserve a mention ¬_¬
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 21, 2006 2:15 pm Reply with quote
barfing_bunnies wrote:
All Gundam series


Depends. If you're talking about quality of story, then there are quite a few Gundam manga that are capable of standing up to or surprassing most of their anime counterparts. It's just that most of them—Crossbone Gundam, Gundam Sentinel, Char's Deleted Affair, etc.—aren't available locally. About the only really high-quality Gundam manga that is locally available is the Gundam SEED Astray series.

Assassin_ wrote:
I'm sorry, but SD Gundam SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO doesn't deserve a mention ¬_¬


Specify which SD Gundam you're referring to. There are about as many SD Gundam series as there are regular Gundam series, most of which were produced in the 1980s as rather hilarious parody shorts taking off on the original series, Zeta, ZZ, & Char's Counterattack.

The one I'm sure you're referring to is SD Gundam Force, which ran on Cartoon Network.
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MorwenLaicoriel



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PostPosted: Tue Mar 21, 2006 6:15 pm Reply with quote
It sort of depends on the series for me. For shoujo series, I tend to prefer the manga over the anime, since it allows me to dwell on the art and go at the speed I want to through the chapter. Also, with Fruits Basket, I felt that (at least in the first volume of the DVD) the anime tried TOO hard to look like the manga, to the point where they often had still, stagnant images. I think it's great they're staying true to the original art, but if it's all going to stay still, I might as well just read the manga. (Plus, I had a strong idea of what Yuki should sound like in my head, and neither the english or Japanese vocals lived up to it.)

But when it comes to Shounen series, I generally prefer the anime. A lot of times the action in manga is CONFUSING, and it's a pain to try to figure out what's going on. The anime tends to make it a lot clearer.

Although there's exceptions to my general feelings. I like FMA equally in both it's incarnations--they're different enough that it doesn't feel like I'm just repeating what I already saw, and the art is drawn very well in FMA--I can't think of a time I was confused with the action in the manga. And I love Princess Tutu, but I've heard the manga (which was made after the anime) took away most of the fairytale elements and watered it down into just another Magical Girl manga, which is disappointing.
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