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WhiteHairGirls
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Hey guys remember the death prophecy on Mako's sunglasses awhile back? One of my friends sent me this.
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Animegomaniac
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I am one to brag and I've been saying this for awhile now. I think the biggest problem from episode 19 is that the flashback was from Ragyo. So she knew but didn't care who his daughter was or that because Ryuko is her daughter, all of a sudden she just knows Isshin's entire life story? Supposedly, there's a five year difference in ages between Satsuki and Ryuko so the flashback is not a problem in his appearance. How they go to the same high school, well ... that's a good question. She was recruiting students so there you go. Why she can only do that as a Student Council President and a student rather than some other position of authority like, oh, principal, well... that's a good question. Because it has to be student versus student? Or was? At some point it was, in the planning stages maybe? The series is fine when it comes to action and it's brilliant when it comes to comedy when it tries drama and story, it's crap. And that's insulting crap. |
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lossthief
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I'm not really sure what's "contradictory" about the story with Isshinspoiler[/Soichiro. There's a noticeable difference between Ryuko's appearance from the flashback last episode and the flashback this episode, so it seems clear that time passed between when Ragyo abandoned her and when Soichiro changed his appearance for good. It's entirely possible that he took care of her and started building the Nudist Beach organization in secret before Ragyo tried to have him killed.]
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Tuor_of_Gondolin
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I know this is probably a waste of time, but whatever... spoiler[You can't assume that there is a 5 year gap between the sisters. We know that Satsuki's father told her "the Truth" when she was 5 years old. That doesn't mean that Ryuko had just been (apparently) disposed of immediately prior to that. We just know that's how old Satsuki was when he told her about it. Given that Satsuki was regarded as a "failure" at one year old, and Ragyu immediately said they needed to try with an even younger child while patting her belly (which appeared swollen, IIRC -- probably should go back and check that -- which I just did, not conclusive either way). So we can assume that she wouldn't have wasted any time getting herself a new test subject. At most, 2 years seperate them. I'd guess Satsuki is a 3rd Year and Ryuko is a 1st Year -- Nope, Ryuko is a 2nd Year, so that means that Ragyo was almost certainly pregnant when she made her comment about needing a younger test subject, and probably between 1-2 years seperates the sisters.] spoiler[As far as Isshin goes: we don't know what he did with Ryuko after she was "disposed of" as a test failure, but Ryuko said that she'd been living away from her father for the most part while she was growing up. Whether or not he'd already come up with his "Isshin" disguise already is unknown, but at some point after he told Satsuki "The Truth", Ragyo decided he was no longer needed and had him killed, and he made sure Ragyo thought that the attempt was successful.] spoiler[So, there's nothing "contradictory" going on at all. He spirited Ryuko away while still Soichiro and Ragyo didn't order his termination until sometime after Satsuki turned 5... probably not long afterwards, and if he knew it was coming, that might've been what prompted him to tell Satsuki "The Truth" when he did.] |
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Ingraman
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Your eyes are playing tricks on you if you're only spotting a little of that. ^^ |
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HaruhiToy
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Those fingers went pretty deep underneath I tell you. Misdemeanor to felony type stuff. But everything was so PURE AND CLEAN up until that point. Why oh why did they have to ruin it? spoiler[</sarcasm>] As for the scenario I kept thinking of the epic scene where the Emperor is telling Luke: good .... strike me down ... let the hate flow through you. In both cases the miscalculation will be how much emotional self control Luke/Satsuki will turn out to have. And it looks like Satsuki has a few more tricks up her ... er sleeve. I'll tell ya those Kiryuin girls are anything but boring. Mom is sure a piece of work but those two daughters aren't to be messed with. |
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Animegomaniac
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Yes, you're right, I had that wrong because I was trying to give the writers some slack in having the guy both secret out his kid and cut all of his ties with Ryugo at the same time because it's a kid, not office supplies. One clean sweep, and wham, he's out of there but no, he kept coming back until he became Isshin completely or something. But in order to do that, he had to find someone to raise the kid and that still hasn't come up yet {not important, she raised herself by suckling on a seersucker suit}. A mad scientist single parent trying to save the world while living a double life of savior and destroyer. Where did he find the time? Additionally, it makes it so Isshin treats Ryuko more as a lab subject than anything else {He started working on her early since he was the one who did the experiment. Doesn't matter if it's Ragyo's idea, it was her womb so she couldn't so it alone. Wow, it's almost some kind of metaphor...} "I better keep her around, she might prove useful." Not because he's raising her because she's his daughter or anything. Nice guy, the more we learn, the more I'm glad he's dead. |
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Tuor_of_Gondolin
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Thus, we once again see proven that those who want to see the worst in something will invariably succeed in doing so.
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meiam
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Sigh, so Ryuko spoiler[doesn't want to wear Senkestu], again, isn't that like the third or fourth time that happens? Do they only have one plot they can do and just press replay? Well hopefully it'll be done in the next episode, or better yet spoiler[she won't wear him ever again] so that they won't be able to push that same plot for nth billions times.
The whole things with spoiler[Satsuki and her mom sexually assaulting her] is because they need the audience to despise her but we're so accustomed to bad guys over taking the world (plus half the time they have some sort of semi legitimate reason) that they have to take things even further somehow. It's a pretty cheap plot device, would be cool if they actually used it for something interesting, but I don't think this is the anime to explore that topic. And about spoiler[Ryuko dad]. Like I said earlier, anime don't know how to do big surprising reveal, it's either so obvious that they might as well spoil it in the opening (which they often do) or it makes no sense and heavily depend on suspension of disbelief, and the character making stupid choice that serve only to fool the audience and makes no sense in the anime world. |
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Sajuukkhar
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Because he only changes his appearance after he supposedly died, so he cant go back to talk to Satsuki normally unless he bows his....COVER.
No there isn't. Satsuki is 18, Ryuko is 17, there is a one year difference between them. |
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kgw
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Listen, are you guys really trying to find "logic" in show which is a pure exageration? Big explosions, blood splashing everyhwhere & BIG RED LETTERS IN THE FRONT.*
spoiler[Souichiro-Isshin apparently raised Ryuko alone while researching and parenting Satsuki for five years until he faked his death to become Isshin.] spoiler[Then, either Ragyo didn't recognize her own husband and sign him to work for Revocs ("Cover"s backwards, so sutile), either the story he told to Nudist Teacher Aikuro is a lie; Ragyo just discovered him and his work with Nudist Beah and send Nui to finish the job. As she didn't know Ryuko was alive, Nui went away after killing Isshin for real.] spoiler[But in the end, let's remember that 99% of whatever Satsuki or the Elite Four said before the last two episodes were absolutely false]. * something that 19th century newspaper serials and soap operas already did: "but actually she was her sister!", "the duel was a trap!", "will someone save the little orphan girl?" Wait for next installment! Oh, and please, can they agree how tall Gamagoori is? Sometimes he seems the little cousin of a Titan. |
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Ingraman
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>_< I forgot that minor detail... |
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DuskyPredator
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Episode 19
People are nitpicking the little things again? I gave up on that ages ago, as long as they avoid certain things that they have, plus it is so much more epic when you just accept the stylisation. Is it weird that in writing this I just listened to the song that shares a similar name with this episodes title; "Raindrops keep falling on my head". And the directors must have read my thoughts on Mako x Gamagori, seeing how spoiler[desperate he was with her being taken, promising her family, and happy to see her]. I even enjoyed Nonon calling him spoiler[out on "flirting]". And also Mako's mother's gaze changing to spoiler[look at the light]. At this time the Elite Four are awesome, and with nudist sensei as also cool, the boast of them was great. Plus there is Satsuki's who's will is something we can respect. And I am sure Ryuko will have increasingly cool moments as she finds her way. I am also right now listening to "Before My Body Is Dry", which is the song that has the lyrics "don't lose your way", I wonder if I might become attached to it like Fight The Power, I hope we might even get a more epic version like Libera Me From Hell. Oh, and I see Mako being the one who spoiler[will being the one to get Ryuko out of her self hatred], that girl has never given up before. |
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Tuor_of_Gondolin
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Probably, but Ryuko won't give her the chance right away, I think. But in the end I agree that it'll be Mako that brings her back to her senses. |
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Treeborn
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Funniest part was seeing Gamagori's heart break when his weapon lost the spotlight lol
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