Forum - View topicNEWS: Sega Announces Yakuza Kiwami 3 Remake, New Mine Spinoff Game Yakuza 3 Dark Ties
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Ultimate N
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Honestly I’m fine with double dipping on this remake despite having the remastered collection because from what I’ve heard everybody says Yakuza 3 is the worst one so if any of those games need a remake it’d be this one, glad to see it happen.
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Greed1914
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I'm working my way through the series and played 3 earlier this year, so I'll probably wait to play this until I get through the other games.
The additions to Kiwami 3 seem like they will help. The PS3 titles may have been remastered for PS4, but they are closer to ports. 3 looks pretty rough graphically, and then the games improve as you'd expect over a console generation. I'm hoping that the new scenes and some reworked scenes help since the main plot has some points where you're kind of expected to trust that things connect or relied on a character telling you about things that happened. The new story for Mine is probably the main thing I am interested in since the original's telling of his involvement with the Tojo Clan left me with some real "How/Why" questions. |
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tintor2
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Yakuza 3 had some issues when compared to the rest of the games like annoying ais or only one fighting style but it's a complete disappointment how they abandoned Judgment and keep milking Kiryu whose story reached its end a lot
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CreativelyFwrd
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Recasting multiple actors
Shoehorning in Mine spinoff Changing the main story like they did with Yakuza 0 Switch edition Probably going to be even more censored than the Remaster was Using the awful Kiwami combat which people should have realized doesn't work since 2 Kiwami. Yeah, this is an easy pass. This franchise fell off so hard it's insane. Just play the originals and ignore all these demakes and demasters they keep putting out with their retcons that would make George Lucas blush |
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GhostStalkerSA
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I dunno, I’m rather interested in the Mine side story and not seeing this as just a cash grab. Even though Yakuzas 3-5 were remastered, they’re still rather rough.
Only real complaint for me so far is the Rikiya face model switch. I get it, his seiyuu got his face scanned for another major character in 6, but the new one looks nothing like old Rikiya and the only one who I didn’t recognize as his character in the trailer. |
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Beatdigga
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3 was admittedly my least favorite of the series, having started with 0 and the first two Kiwami games. So a remake is welcome.
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EmeraldSaucer
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All the recasts are pretty terrible not gonna lie. Rikiya has lost all his whimsy, Nakahara looks way too dignified and cool, nothing about these actors speak to these characters and feel more like RGG getting a little too caught up in what actors they can manage to bag
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lufia2rocks
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Lol. They removed his cigarette. The pose looks weird now.
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BadNewsBlues
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By every story I’ve heard the original 3’s combat was the worst in the series proper.
Let’s not pretend that the writing in these games as is doesn’t get increasingly stupid as the games go on. In addition if there is one retcon I’d be perfectly fine with is them not having Kaoru and Kiryu break up like they did in the original game and we all know what 4 needs retcon wise. |
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whiskeyii
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Well considering I’ve only bought up to Kiwami 2 and hadn’t figured out what to do about the rest of the series, looks like I’m all set to settle in for Kiwami remakes of the rest of Kiryu’s story!
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Low-Angle Nakagawa
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Er, who's "we"? Because I don't know what needs to be retconned in 4. It' aAlways weird to see people claim to be big fans of something and then do nothing but put it down and say how much it needs to be changed because it sucks. Makes me think they're not actually fans at all. Anyway no matter how many retcons and rewrites these remakes continue to do they're never going to erase the original story or memory hole it so whatever. Sales figures alone show us these remakes and remasters fail to sell a fraction of the original games. So most fans are going to continue to treat the original games as the definitive versions. |
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GhostStalkerSA
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Looking at the trailer again with some fresh eyes and not imminent from the hype of the reveal, I see that Rikiya is now played by the low level Yakuza aniki character from Tokyo Vice whose name escapes me at the moment. I know he’s a decent actor from that series, but he’s definitely gonna take some getting used to. Not gonna prejudge him as much as I had been doing earlier, as my initial reaction in this thread had done.
There’s a reason why this game is memed as Blockuza 3, because the enemies love to block so damn much. A change to that would be welcome. |
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MFrontier
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At this rate Yongyea might end up redubbing all the Yakuza games.
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BadNewsBlues
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Then you likely haven’t played 4 then. Otherwise you would be aware of the memetastic plot twist involving Saejima.
Because being a fan of something and twisting yourself into knots to excuse something terrible in the game is better? Which I have seen Yakuza fans do with things like the Cat Fight Club minigame from 0 with its terrible simulation elements compounded by bullshit RNG that barely functions. Your argument is particularly comical given the segment of LAD fans who have spent the last two games whining because they turned it into an RPG instead of keeping the beat em elements.
Sure if you ignore the fact that this in fact will happen with the remaster of Yakuza 4 and their swapping of Tanimura’s orignal actor and later with Hamura’s in Judgment as not everyone is going to go out of their way to ferret out and seek the original versions of those games. I also know most people unless they’re proficient in Japanese aren’t going to be hunting down the original Japanese PS3 version of Yakuza 3 that had content that was removed from the localized version we in the west got. Same thing with Kenzan if they ever get around to remaking it as the original game was never released outside of Asia.
The fact they keep doing them instead of not would suggest that they make more than enough revenue to justify their existence. As we’re well aware Sega isn’t the type of publisher to keep sinking money into things that aren’t going to recoup it’s costs.
Oh I’ve heard the frustrations over on the Yakuza themed subreddit. Having done Tanimura’s stupid as hell sub quest from 4 where you have to train and master his parry mechanics against a “dummy” you can’t directly hit. I can’t possibly imagine having to play an entire game with essentially a similar system like that at play. |
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