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Ming Yi
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Syundei has been targeted since last year and it's only been ramping up since the anime was broadcast. People uncovered some of their older works where they had published stuff that was seen as problematic and they also took offense to a scene of Hirose being felt up by an octopus in the original manga (that the anime took out); there's been a lot of discourse about the anime censoring some of the racier scenes from the manga and debate on whether the anime is "better" because of this. I also feel that the auto-translate feature on Grok has exposed Syundei to even more criticism and comments accusing them of being a pedophile.
Nevertheless, I think what the article fails to mention is the impact it's having on the Japanese community, since a lot of creators are responding to this situation and are being disheartened. Here are some creators who have responded to this: Yuu Toyota (Cherry Magic!) Yuma Ichinose (No God in Eden) Mirai Machida Yuiko Michiru Nakayama Hyogo Onimushi (Return to Shironagasu Island) Sekai Hoshino, 2 |
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Aerdra
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Some people are too online or too unemployed (or both), harassing creators for their works. There's no reason to attack a real person because of an inappropriate relationship between two people who don't actually exist.
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justsomeaccount
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In the news there are links that have some additional info, though I'm very interested (though it sounds like a wrong way to say it when this is such a serious issue...) in the japanese one since it includes lots of snapshots and japanese reactions.
But I'll say the Grok automatic translation thing is something I've seen other authors mention, at the end even with all the shittification and rage-baiting design, the language barrier (even if there was a "translate" button below) still ensured some barrier, context awareness and less algorithmic propagation when interacting with those authors that protected them, but now they have to deal with foreign opinions all the time without any of that and of course that comes with all the nastiness current Twitter is known for. I feel we are going to see more cases like this, since Twitter is still the japanese authors' main social media to promote themselves (even if as time passes because of the algorithm is less and less useful for that according to what they say). Last edited by justsomeaccount on Tue Apr 14, 2026 3:57 am; edited 1 time in total |
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Cardcaptor Takato
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I feel like in general there used to be a sensible gap between fans and authors that was respected and that gap has been bridged with the advent of the Internet and social media in ways that we're not supposed to have as fans. Like on the one hand, it's nice for creators to be able to more easily interact with fans, but I also don't think fans should be able to have such instant access to creators and celebrities, which is why I rarely follow mangaka and anime directors on social media. Not to say there weren't instances pre-social media of fans behaving badly towards creators, but it always felt limited to special events like fans behaving unruly at cons or something. These people also seem to have a very shallow relationship with art and are the kinds of fans who only care about anime and manga as an "aesthetic" and their heads would explode if they read Cardcaptor Sakura or like 90% of 90s shojo manga that have way more problematic content. Nakamura is like the fluffiest BL manga of all time and it's funny how just a few years ago it was upheld as an example of one of the good "pure BL" and not like that other more "icky" kind of BL with adult situations or whatever.
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ab2143
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If you don’t like something, don’t read. No need to harass the author
I’ve seen people tag Oreco Tachibana to complain about Firefly Wedding ending. It’s rude and embarrassing |
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Wyvern
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Thanks for compiling this, it's really encouraging to see creators standing up to this nonsense. Seems like some people just make a sport out of bullying creators on social media, and creators of LGBT-themed series seem to get it the worst. |
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SinisterOracle
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IMO, this is a lot of nonsense from pathetic twats who have no life. There is absolutely no reason to harass Syundei about two characters that literally do not exist IRL. Not to mention that many of the people harassing them most likely have their own kinks and things they’re into that they don’t let people know. The scene with Hirose being felt up by the octopus is a common trope in BL and non-BL stories.
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Top Gun
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It's utterly indefensible for anyone to harass a creator to the point where they feel compelled to delete their account entirely. Having said that, I genuinely wish that every sane person under the sun would decide to leave that utter cesspool of a platform en masse. Even back when early Twitter was "good" I always viewed it as a silly and pointless way to communicate, but my God, at this point it's just devolved into irredeemable garbage. If talented people want to keep directly communicating with their fans, please, for your own sakes find another avenue to do so that respects you as human beings and offers you the basic tools to protect yourselves.
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Ming Yi
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In an ideal world, this would be great, but Twitter is still the biggest social media platform next to LINE in Japan. It's just easier for artists to get engagement and get news from publishers. |
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-Matthew-
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Sad news. I like her works.
Hope that she will publish new works anyway! |
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annasartin
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Well, she has my support. Both manga volumes of Nakamura-kun are sitting on my shelf, and if fans want to support her, I suggest picking up her work so she and the publisher know her manga is going to sell in the west regardless of what a few terminally online yahoos on the internet have to say.
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justsomeaccount
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I read the japanese link, and while there is no new info there, it included some reactions so I read them. There were basically 2-chan-esque comments, the kind your tend to see in series about frivolous comments, so they mostly reached with smugness, laugh or confusion, very unpleasant.
However even from there you can take some things about their perspective, both in their misunderstandings (some think the "political correctness" (their words) harassment came just because there are implied sexual situations alone and no more context, which kinda tells about their misreading of the situation) but also some glossed over points that the series looks like something taken a standard romcom manga of the 80s with the twist that is BL, and so it has both the drawing, tone and joke sensibilities of that era (which I always thought that was the point of the series), and maybe those foreign people can't tolerate those kind of "problematic" jokes or content. And when I thought about it that makes some sense, unlike 80s remakes with problematic stuff like Rumiko's comedy series (where the author's name, nostalgic value and directed to a general public may aliviate the backlash), this one attracted a public that may have a lot of "socially conscious but extremely volatile and violent reactions to problematic stuff" people so things that are frankly extremely common or tame but dated (like the octopus joke or the teacher stuff that you may see in a series like Card Captor Sakura or something), for them it's something to dogpile about. And from the snapshots in the page about some of the harassers, all were foreign tweets automatically translated by Grok (English, Spanish, Portuguese, etc.), so those hurtful comments (both directed at the author or just indirectly) are understandable by the author instead of being outside her bubble. They also argue with her with the same hostility and enraged sarcasm you see in some of the most vitriolic dogpiling you can see in Twitter, which feels even more aggressive given cultural differences, and an author who clearly wasn't prepared for this. So it seems a situation where all these variables exploded in the worst way possible. It really sucks. |
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thekingsdinner
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Getting away from twitter can only be benefitial to one's mental health. I wish her the best.
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Beatdigga
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Harassed for clout and for what? Because she failed some hypothetical purity test?
Sadly, Twitter is really one of the only social media spaces that one can use to network worldwide and get their name out. It's easy to say "get off the dumpster fire", but a lot of people in the creative arts don't have a choice. Still, I'm glad she did what was best for her health. |
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Joe Mello
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What are we defining as "networking"? Because if it's just follows and RT's, that's not networking. To me, networking is specifically connecting with other potential colleagues and jobs within the industry. You can advertise on X, you can make friends on X, and those could eventually lead to networking opportunities, but if the goal is to find a gig, there are better places. Unless you're getting paid to be on X (and even if you are) there's always a choice. |
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