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xZeroRyoko
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Im thinking of picking this manga up..i hear soo many positive things about this Series. I am still waiting to hear something negative and i was wondering if anyone has any complaints about this Manga Series?
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Generic #757858
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Well, it's a very long series and still years away from completion. It's can also be very brutal, with plenty of stuff that can make you feel squezy, so be prepared for that. Oh, and the first three or so volumes are pretty poor, but luckily the series starts to get really good immeadetily afterwards with the Golden Age-arc.
That's pretty much all I can think of. If you're prepared to deal with all that, then you should definetily give Berserk a chance, it's a great series. |
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Paploo
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On a positive note, the english release is caught up to the Japanese one- so there's 30+ vols in print awaiting you.
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ScarredSwordHeart
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Berserk has got to be one of the coolest manga I've ever read. It's so dark, gritty, violent and adult! It brutally depicts rape, murder, disembowelment, beheading! But at the same time, it does have a good plot line and character development, so it's not just wanton violence.
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IncompetentOverlord
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Just Buy It. It's one of the better Seinen series out there, and deserves to be read by twice the readership Naruto gets.
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ShinobiX
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buy the first 20 volumes or up to chapter 295 or something like that idk. Whatever all I know is that two thirds of the way the manga turns to shit.
Simply put, unless you're sexually deprived, you wont find this book interesting at all. The story sucks after Caska gets raped. From that point on it turns into your typical bs manga story (mangas that needlessly stretch the plot/ fillers) and the plot line is replaced with sex slaves and orgies. Don't misunderstand though. The beginning and middle is really good. Anyhow I think you should get BOTI. Much much better. BOTI has it faults too, but not as many as Berserk. Most importantly, BOTI strength is its story unlike Berserk. If you read or know of Macbeth, then you've read Berserk. Most people read Berserk only because of the following: It won a lot of awards Not many adult fantasy mangas out there (of course it'll win the award. No decent competition) Argubaly one of the best looking artistic mangas out there. Its Dark Horse Comics Half the book is porn. Sex, BSDM, too much rape, orgies, bestiality...author is sick in the head Unfortunately, many people think this story is unique. Its not However it is done well when compared to most of the shit that's out there Probably the most violent manga in the history of manga Berserk= sex, drugs, and violence. It sells Berserk sells because of that shit. It doesn't sell because its a "good" book. idk its like eye candy if you know what I mean. Usually, eye candy always means trash. Good to look at, but then you realize it is just garbage. |
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HellKorn
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Also, please point to what specific "fantasy award" Berserk has one.
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Monumension
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^ Thanks for posting that Hellkorn. You put it better and more civilized than I would have.
As for the OP's question: I can't find that many negative things worth mention. Since it's such a long series you'll obviously find some parts that doesn't feel as interesting or significant as when it's at its prime - like most mangas it's got ups and downs. I personally think some of the battle scenes goes on for a little too long (vol.31) and Miura's efforts at fusing elements from different time periods seems a little odd at times, but these are only minor complaints. And as you've seen; the content of the series also tend to inspire some hysterical overreactions. |
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ikillchicken
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You evidently don't know what at least one of those words means. |
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ShinobiX
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He asked for something negative but um ok since currently I got nothing else to do. Also how about answering his question than wasting your time arguing with me about what I find wrong with the manga:
Um there is excessive sex/rape in the manga. Not really gunna discuss that and reread all the chapters to point it out. fantasy is a genre and I said book won awards, finalists, etc. http://comipress.com/article/2007/07/12/2289 you go look for the rest. I'm too lazy Uh mention Dark Horse Comics as it is a name brand that usually means the quality of the product is good and no dont give me any smart ass answers. Dark Horse Comics is like Apple. Known for making good products. "Seriously get off my case." Always wanted to say that  Spider-man uh whatever
Um ok but listing 5 or 4 is not a lot. Adult fantasy is not a big genre. Shonen is. Their is less competition jeez. You seriously argued with me about that? You were definitely bored. Half the book is porn and violence as in the dude focuses more on sex and artistic design than the story and thats my opinion. No need to be a douche about it fanboy lol I mean this is a jacked up version of Macbeth. The only difference is that Macbeth ends and Berserk doesn't. Berserk should have ended a long time ago which is why I said dont buy all of the volumes. Um ok then you list a manga thats more violent than Berserk. Idk? However it is known for its violence. Besides I said probably and the main point of that remark is that the book is extremely violent. Really no discussing that. Um I know they are are no drugs. Metaphor. The bheriut whatever. The stupid egg is the "drug." Happy now? Poor one? I don't think so. Next. Uh I really don't update my "my anime list" as I don't care about it. How you can tell is that I don't have any new anime in "my anime list." Despite what I just said, I would consider Bleach a masterpiece since it has what other mangas don't. Bleach is able to maintain and keep a loyal fan base. Also its popularity is just growing. Even though personally I and as well as other people think Bleach sucks, we still keep going back. Bleach just has that idk its like a "drug." Happy quotations. Oh and I must say its nice to see people rather respond to me than answer the bloody question lol I mean seriously the person asked for something negative not "lets bash shinobix because I disagree or ignore the question and write something positive" Civilized my ass. You're just bored. ikillchicken hmm guess I dont |
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ikillchicken
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Yes, he asked for negative opinions. If you read the whole post though you'll see it's because he is considering picking up the manga. I think you're throwing some pretty questionable and baseless criticisms at the series. Obviously that's not helpful to anyone in making such a decision. It's fine if you have a negative opinion of the series and you want to express it. If you want to express it and be exempt from criticism or disagreement though then you should go start a blog, not post it on a forum.
Really? Can you explain at all how it's even similar? Just to start off can you list a few points of similarity? For that matter, even if it was, is that a problem? Macbeth is a classic work of literature. Saying Berserk's story is bad because it's like Macbeth doesn't quite compute.
I smell backtracking. It can only be compared to a drug in a tremendously tenuous sense and that comparison makes absolutely no sense in the original context you used it in.
You know, you're pretty quick to play the 'I'm entitled to my opinion' card. That's kinda a joke in this case though since you're the one basically refusing to accept that anyone else can have a differing opinion than you. Look, Berserk is tremendously graphic as well as long and ongoing. These are both legitimate points. If you can't handle graphic content and aren't willing to read an extremely long series, Berserk isn't for you. I respect that element of your opinion. In fact, I can even agree to disagree if you think Berserk focuses on this while neglecting it's story. I don't agree but you're entitled to your opinion. What I have no patience for however, is when you start pulling all this nonsense out to try and discredit anyone who doesn't share your opinion. According to you, it can't possibly be that a lot of people actually like Berserk. Oh no! It must just be that they're just reading it because it won all these awards! (Which of course you insist it didn't deserve). It must just be that it's put out by Dark Horse! It must just be that it looks great and has lots of sex! Come on dude. Why don't you just man up and accept that lots of people genuinely find Berserk to be a great series. It's not all some giant conspiracy of circumstance. |
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irriadin
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Unlike a lot of other ongoing manga series, it seems that Miura always knows what he's doing and has an over-arching plot that is quite impressive in scope, comparable to some major fantasy novels. It's very rare to find someone who is an incredibly skilled artist as well as a great storyteller, and Miura is both.
I really find it hard to believe that anyone could think that it "...turns into your typical bs manga story (mangas that needlessly stretch the plot/ fillers)." Perhaps the Lost Children chapters can be construed as the weakest in the entirety of Berserk. I won't argue that overmuch. But some of the best material in the entire series can be found past that. |
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HellKorn
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Would like to note that what irriadin says is completely true -- particularly in regards to events that transpire in volume 34, where all of the events lead up to a literally world-changing event.
Anyway, others have already explained why the person should read Berserk; if I gave a short explanation, it would be redundant, and if I gave a long one, then it would be too much for a mere recommendation.
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ShinobiX
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illi I'm not really talking to you because lets face it most of what you say is in fact garbage and its very clear you just like to fudge with people. Shut you up once don't feel like doing it again. Oh didn't read pass the first paragraph because I knew it would be shit. Could reply but don't really care. Oh and no this not an excuse or whatever. Really I just don't give a shit lol. Take it however you want.
Anyway Hellkorn sure: Civilized remark wasn't for you. Exactly. The person said this. A translation. I know the book Berserk is good because people keep telling me all the good things about it. I want to hear the bad or is there anything bad about the book? The man or girl heard all the good. Time to hear something bad or a different opinion. Simply put he or she was looking for a reason not to buy the book. Is the book as good as they say etc. I said no and you can't deny that at some of what I said is true. Not asking you to agree with me its an opinion. I guess you don't, but I tend to research in what I'm buying before I actually buy it. You should try it. Save you a lot of money. This answers your award comment too. Heck this guy or girl is doing exactly what I do. He or she is "researching." Pretty sure he or she made up her mind already meaning technically this is a dead thread so you could choose to respond, but I may or may not respond to you. No point. You'd have to make a thread saying why Berserk doesn't suck. Just to be clear, as I stated earlier, the book doesn't suck, but I don't think its worth $10-14bucks either. At least until you reach volume 22 or somewhere around there. Oh and Dark Horse Comics is known in the U.S. Very popular look it up. Also Dark Horse is a U.S. publisher/ company. Do these names ring any bells? Sin City, 300, Hellboy, Buffy, Akira- Dark Horse Comics Competition remark. Dude cmon. There are like a million Shonen Mangas. Adult Dark Fantasy? You get my point? Competition for Berserk is lacking. Also the mangas you listed are not ongoing or Adult Dark Fantasy therefore it doesn't compete with Berserk. You know how competitions work. Every year, you look at all the new and ongoing stuff..... Seriously. Now you're just being stubborn. I'm not talking about all time competitions. I'm talking about normal ones. How they do the Oscars.... Yeah bleach is a masterpiece that sucks. Check out the bleach thread if you don't believe me. Why you're a douche? Seriously dude. You wrote a whole page in order to disprove me and piss me off. Yeah I may have been gone a while, but I know a smart ass when I see one and the anime insults. Wow you had to even ask lol? If you disagree fine. You don't write a page. Rest of your comments like if you don't like Shakemcnaky blah blah blah, I'm not gunna answer because there is a lot of misunderstanding on your part. Could be simply resolved if you googled Berserk, Macbeth, Dark Horse... fyi, if you understood what I wrote you would realize I like Macbeth more than Berserk thus I like Shakespeare's work more than Berserk. I'll quote my self "Macbeth ends. Berserk doesn't..." If you couldn't understand that well yeah. However I'll give you this though. My opinion of Shakespeare's work is not clearly stated since that wasn't the main point of that statement. Obviously the issue I was discussing was length. End is the key word... |
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dewlwieldthedarpachief
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I don't read manga and I love Berserk. Go for it.
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