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bassgs435
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There's a weird trend to act like even the most tame manga are extreme fetish works and calling fans "degenerates" "porn addicts" "gooners". Some people think the Yuki banter here is literally no different from the graphic twin incest sex scene in Yosuga no Sora. They react to stuff like Nagatoro or Uzaki like they're no different from Futoku no Guild, Redo of Healer or Isekai Meikyuu Harem. It's like there's a demand for 0% fanservice and trying to make stuff "normal" (whatever normal might be) and anything that breaks the rules gets called extremely degenerate with no nuance |
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Blanchimont
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Anyone notice the ED theme song(Chiisana Koi no Uta) for episode 5 was the same one as the one used for The Angel Next Door Spoils Me Rotten ED in season 1? (different singer)
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Thesarum
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An extended meta joke about "imouto" tropes in anime rom-coms.
As you say, pretty sure she's just being a cringe goblin on purpose here. She's forced to keep up appearances at school, so this is what she does to blow off steam. I'm fairly confident that she holds nothing beyond regular sibling affection for Kuze. He knows all this, which is why he indulges it. On the other hand, it's a means of the show doing some nudge-nudge-wink-wink fanservice while claiming absolutely nothing improper is going on. So it's still a little icky. In-world it might be fine, but on a meta level the show knows exactly what it's doing here, and it's legitimate to have some issues with that. |
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NeverConvex
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Also find the incest jokes more uncomfortable than funny; not because they're 'explicit' or 'extremely degenerate', nor because they sometimes involve fan service -- like, this most recent time the protagonist got an eye-full, but the viewer saw essentially nothing, right (EDIT: mm, I guess there's a brief shot of her torso and a side view of her chest, looking back at the episode, before it cuts to views of her wearing a body-length towel)? I wouldn't call that fan service at all; it's just kind of an unsettling brother/sister dynamic, and I'm not sure what about it is funny or sexy, either in-universe or out.
I also mostly don't think they're playing the incest angle straight which -- thank god, because I'm generally having a lot of fun with the show still, and that would make it a lot harder to keep doing so -- but the mini-scene with his sister sighing after she left his room did feel like it uhh left a little bit of room for interpretation. |
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InfiniteNothingness
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I like how, honestly, I probably would have read this version too. Although personally, I probably also would have found it less interesting (I do like my school shenanigans).
Yeah, it's really frustrating seeing this sort of flattening going on, when it does happen... distressingly often in my experience broadly as an anime fan.
Understandable really, though I don't take issue with MrAJCosplay and others not finding it entertaining. That wasn't really on my mind in the slightest. Last edited by InfiniteNothingness on Sat Aug 03, 2024 10:32 pm; edited 1 time in total |
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The Scream Man
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Yeah, sorry I can feel uncomfortable about it if i like. Its not that I "dont get it." or whatever, I just think its distracting and in poor taste. And it was 10 minutes of the episode with this kind of joke going on and on! It also just seems silly; In a setting that is (arguably) pretty realistic, we have this sister whose whole way of joking is doing vaguely sexy stuff with her brother. I have a sister and if she did any of this stuff with me when we were teenagers Id have been talking to my parents or a doctor or SOMONE to get that shit sorted out.
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Otohiko
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Yeah, I totally get the "ick" regarding the weird stuff with Yuki. As long as it doesn't cross any more lines, it's not a deal-breaker for me with this show - but I hope they lay off it a bit. It's just not even that funny in anything beyond small doses.
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MFrontier
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They knew the fans had missed Yuki so they brought her back and doubled-down on how much of cultured, degenerate, and self-aware gremlin of a little sister she is.
Though things are heating up with Alya and Masha as well, especially now that we've got pretty much the whole gang together in the student council room. Chisaki looks great animated. Alya, when they've got the Bishie Sparkle, that's when you know you're doomed. |
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Thesarum
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I'd somehow already forgotten that happened... though it got a decent laugh at the time. This is a romcom though, so I'm sure she'll hold out with her tsun-denial for a long while yet. |
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minamikaze
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If MrAJCosplay keeps misusing the term "filler" in reviews on this site, perhaps they are just ignorant of its actual meaning and usage? So here's some info that could hopefully rectify that. A site with a fairly good explanation and plenty of examples of actual filler is: Anime Filler List. On the first page, it offers this explanation of what filler is:
A few examples of shows with a lot of filler content are: Naruto, Bleach and Case Closed. (Links to their pages on Anime Filler List which list their filler episodes). Typically shows that end up with a lot of filler episodes are popular shows that run in a prime TV time-slot. As mentioned above, usually each weekly anime episode uses two weeks of manga content, so unless the source manga is complete. the show will eventually run out of new content to adapt, (the exception to this is One Piece which limits the use of filler by typically only using a single week's worth of manga content for an episode). The purpose of filler is to keep a popular show running, until there is enough new manga content to use for new episodes. Another option when there isn't enough content to continue a show is an anime original ending, which is similar to filler in that it is anime original content not contained in the manga, but since the purpose is to end the show not continue it, it should not be referred to as "filler". Anime original endings are attempts to provide a more satisfying/dramatic ending (with varying results) than just ending the show by merely stopping, which is frequently referred to as a "read the manga" ending. Examples of shows with original anime endings are: Claymore, Full Metal Alchemist, and the first seasons of Black Butler and Blue Exorcist. Another example of anime original content, is when an episode or two is added because the original content being adapted isn't sufficient for a full 11 or 12 episodes. I personally wouldn't call those episodes filler, because the reason for adding them is somewhat different, but I wouldn't argue if someone else did call them that. So basically, if the content from an episode is present in the manga or light novel the show is based on, it should not be referred to as "filler" even if it doesn't seem to advance the main plot, focuses on side characters or differs in overall quality. Additionally, using the term "filler" to mean "sub-par in quality", is also incorrect usage. Not all filler arcs are of low quality. There were a few filler arcs in Naruto and Inuyasha that I thought were on par in quality with canon episodes. Last edited by minamikaze on Mon Aug 05, 2024 9:44 am; edited 3 times in total |
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Crimson Fire
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So for those talking about the use of the word 'filler' I think what we have here is a two different groups using the same word to mean different things.
I realised it during a conversation with friend who isn't that into anime but is a tv and film buff who understands story structure and flow. They were talking about it in terms of ruining pacing or a lack of story or character development. After our 'aha' moment, when talking about anime we tend to preface them in ways such as 'not much happened filler' and 'non-source material filler.' The tv troupes site explains it well and mentions the anime specific uses. https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/Filler |
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dm
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The ending is different every episode, though I didn't notice until they did Hare hare yukai from the first season of The melancholy of Suzumiya Haruhi. |
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Angel M Cazares
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I found the incest "comedy" routine amusing for a couple of episodes, but it is starting to annoy me. I come to this show for the dynamic between Alya and Kuze, and to a lesser extent Masha.
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bassgs435
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It's funny how the consensus here seems to be that Yuki's scenes simply are not fun when literally everywhere else, most of the people watching love her and think she's the best part of the show. And I'm in that group who loves her antics and think she outshines Alya easily. It's not that I dislike Alya, but Yuki is just so much better and makes every scene she's in a ton of fun
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Key
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After episode 5, I tend to agree with this. Alya is getting outshone in her own show. |
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