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InTraining



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PostPosted: Wed Apr 15, 2009 11:49 pm Reply with quote
My first thread, not sure if this should be in retail, my bad if it should..
Been getting into buying anime on DVD recently, but suddenly found myself stuck at When they Cry. Geneon DVDs are obviously going to be more expensive compared to the Funimation ones, but which one is better to get in terms of content? Are they exactly the same thing or does the Funi DVDs have their logo all over the product? Do the Gen DVDs have original adds that Funi do not have, or vice versa? ughh.. Confused

Thanks in advance~
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 16, 2009 12:48 am Reply with quote
As far as I know, Funi releases Geneon DVDs that they acquired with the Geneon logo on it. Older series I don't know if you'll be able to find that easily, but I'm pretty sure that Funi acquired When They Cry as well, and have been releasing them. I've only bought the Hellsing Ultimate series that has been released by Funi, or volume 4 that is, and the one thing I noticed that was different between Geneon releasing it and Funi actually releasing the DVD was that they took out the original Japanese text credits at the end of the episode. Instead I got English fast-forwarding itself through the ending animation sequence. I liked how the Japanese text would go through, but you can't complain about everything, especially when you might not have gotten it at all. At this point, you don't have a choice on Geneon titles, particularly when it comes to titles that have been picked up by Funi, because they released whatever Geneon wasn't able to. Whatever was released by Geneon before they went down, is released in Geneon style. After that, enjoy Geneon with Funi.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 16, 2009 8:28 am Reply with quote
All Funi's Geneon rescues, as far as I know, are still marked Geneon-style and feature the same content as the original release (save for the Shana boxset, which has a bonus disc containing the 2 OAV episodes.) Once the plastic's off, you can't tell the difference between the two at all.

In other words, just get the cheaper one. Very Happy
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 16, 2009 9:18 am Reply with quote
DuelLadyS, do you have any of Funi's Geneon rescues? Because I've got the Vol. 6 ADV rescue of Welcome to the NHK, and they did add Funimation previews to the disc, and the Funimation logo on the spine.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 16, 2009 12:31 pm Reply with quote
If you look closely at the bottom of the front of the NHK disc 6, they did also replace the ADV logo with funimation's. Which is nice to keep the overall cover design, cause it makes everything match nicely. I still wish they'd re-release older Geneon series, though Confused
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 16, 2009 1:18 pm Reply with quote
DerekTheRed wrote:
DuelLadyS, do you have any of Funi's Geneon rescues? Because I've got the Vol. 6 ADV rescue of Welcome to the NHK, and they did add Funimation previews to the disc, and the Funimation logo on the spine.
There's a reason for that. With the Geneon titles, they have mostly been marketing and distributing them as a partner with Geneon's remains. (In other words, they aren't so much license rescues and license completions. Though a few titles are being outright taken over by my beloved Texas Overlords.)

In the case of the ADV series, Sojitz, ADV's former partner said "you ain't working out, we're taking our shows back and selling them/giving them (no one's clear here) to that other Texas anime company!" In other words, things like Welcome to the NHK are completely Funimation's now. It's possible that without the takeover, some of them wouldn't even have had their dubs finished.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 16, 2009 2:47 pm Reply with quote
Ah, I see. NHK's dub was completed before Sojitz took the license from ADV though. I had an email conversation with John Sawsey (ADR Director) before they announced that they wouldn't release volume 5 or 6. If I recall, the announcement came like the week that they were slated to release Vol 5, and some stores already had it on the shelves, my Vol. 5 says ADV still. At that time, he told me that recording for the show was completed.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 16, 2009 2:48 pm Reply with quote
That's been the chief concern for many when Geneon went down that their series would never be finished. Having Geneon partner with Funi has been a godsend to otaku everywhere.

As for the media itself, all I have to go by right now is the few titles I've acquired.
Fate/Stay Night was simply a repackaging of the original DVDs into a thinbox in my eyes, something Geneon would've hopefully gotten around to doing.
Nanoha season 1 looks like it was primed to be sold in individuals with an artbox bundled somewhere along the line, but Funi put all 3 volumes in the box and sold it as is with their logo on the very bottom of the box, IIRC. Season 2 is a straight boxset much like FSN. Haven't opened it yet to see the contents.
Maybe I didn't watch closely enough, but the Hellsing Ultimate seem alike to me from when I first saw vol. 1 to the latest vol. 4.
Le Chevalier D'eon Features repackaging and new DVDS. ADV had six disks with episodes & extras on each. The box from Funi boasts 4 DVDs plus 1 DVD of extras. Also, ADV's logo is nowhere to be seen.
Welcome to the NHK part 2 box so far appears to be the same disks as before. I'll need to get back to you on that one.

I'm happy that series can be completed, but like so many others I cry for more titles to come out of Geneon's vault and be be reissued, such as the works of Yoshitoshi ABe. I also wish that series could be continued into their sequels, such as Higurashi Kai. *Crosses fingers*

Edit: Just got a look at Gankutshou and Last Exile boxes. Both are Geneon Titles, but I see Funi's banner on the front. The Gankutshou trailer highlight more recent Gonzo shows that Funi owns such as Afro Samurai and Samurai 7. Last Exile mentions Samurai 7, Blue Sub 6 and Range Murada, a natural connection. Makes me wonder if there may be a merger or a buyout in the future.

Edit 2: Corrected an error I just saw on Le Chevalier D'eon disk numbers.


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PostPosted: Thu Apr 16, 2009 2:55 pm Reply with quote
NERVchild wrote:
Le Chevalier D'eon Features repackaging and new DVDS. ADV had six disks with episodes & extras on each. The box from Funi boasts 5 DVDs plus 1 DVD of extras. Also, ADV's logo is nowhere to be seen.

Shocked How'd they manage that? IIRC most of the extras for Chevalier were commentaries. I think there were 2-3 commentaries on each disc, there was a slide show from a photo shoot on 1-2 discs, and every disc had historical notes and previews.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 16, 2009 3:17 pm Reply with quote
DerekTheRed wrote:
NERVchild wrote:
Le Chevalier D'eon Features repackaging and new DVDS. ADV had six disks with episodes & extras on each. The box from Funi boasts 5 DVDs plus 1 DVD of extras. Also, ADV's logo is nowhere to be seen.

Shocked How'd they manage that? IIRC most of the extras for Chevalier were commentaries. I think there were 2-3 commentaries on each disc, there was a slide show from a photo shoot on 1-2 discs, and every disc had historical notes and previews.

I'm not next to my disks, so I'll have to rely on Amazon.com's listing of the box and the images they give. Looks I was misreading it. The series fits on Four DVDs of six episodes each with a 5th extras disk. The original had six disks of 4 episodes each with extras.
For the Funi release, I'm thinking the 4 disks included the commentary as an option along with English & Japanese audio. The 5th appears to have clean OP & ED, historical notes, trailers, and so on. We're looking at whole new disks here.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 16, 2009 8:15 pm Reply with quote
Richard J. wrote:
DerekTheRed wrote:
DuelLadyS, do you have any of Funi's Geneon rescues? Because I've got the Vol. 6 ADV rescue of Welcome to the NHK, and they did add Funimation previews to the disc, and the Funimation logo on the spine.
There's a reason for that. With the Geneon titles, they have mostly been marketing and distributing them as a partner with Geneon's remains. (In other words, they aren't so much license rescues and license completions. Though a few titles are being outright taken over by my beloved Texas Overlords.)

In the case of the ADV series, Sojitz, ADV's former partner said "you ain't working out, we're taking our shows back and selling them/giving them (no one's clear here) to that other Texas anime company!" In other words, things like Welcome to the NHK are completely Funimation's now. It's possible that without the takeover, some of them wouldn't even have had their dubs finished.


Exactly- my ADV -> Funi titles (Wallfower, Pumpkin Scissors) are all earmarked for Funimation. My Geneon -> Funi titles however (When They Cry, Shonen Onmyoji) are identical to the originals.

So, as far as the Geneon ones go, there's no changes.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 16, 2009 11:04 pm Reply with quote
NERVchild wrote:
I'm happy that series can be completed, but like so many others I cry for more titles to come out of Geneon's vault and be be reissued, such as the works of Yoshitoshi ABe.


You really need to check out the current Rightstuf bargain bin sale.
Niea 7, Haibane Renmei, and even Lain are available as singles for a great price for the singles.

I picked up Niea 7, and Haibane Renmei, as well as the very underrated Rumiko Takahashi Anthology (not Abe releate), prior to this sale, and it seems they have somehow reloaded on all three, as I thought I had got the last of key discs of both Niea 7 and Anthology.

As far as my Geneon releases with Funimation as the distrubutor: Last volumes of When They Cry, all of Black Lagoon Second Barrage, Familiar of Zero, seem to be straight Geneon releases. The Familiar of Zero was especially a nice set to get with reversable covers and full sized cases. Lyrical Nanoha A's seemed to be more of Funi influence, with a thin pack release, in a flimsier box, but still seemed to have all the nice things like reversable covers.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 17, 2009 5:27 pm Reply with quote
From my experience and from what I've heard it seems like Funimation is just taking the Geneon dvds and re-pricing them. They might change to box up or something, but I think for the most part there's no real difference.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 20, 2009 11:26 pm Reply with quote
There isn't any difference at all. You have to remember Geneon is the one making the dvds. All funimation is doing is mass producing and shipping them. They get to stamp their logo on them as the manufacturer and Geneon decides what content goes on the discs.

All funimation does is crank em out of their factory and send em to retailers.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 20, 2009 11:45 pm Reply with quote
NERVchild wrote:
The original had six disks of 4 episodes each with extras.
For the Funi release, I'm thinking the 4 disks included the commentary as an option along with English & Japanese audio. The 5th appears to have clean OP & ED, historical notes, trailers, and so on. We're looking at whole new disks here.


Yeah, the latest batch of rescues, including titles like Le Chevalier d'Eon, Last Exile, and Gankutsuou are completely new discs. I received my Gankutsuou re-release a few days ago and am heavily disappointed at the butchering of the video that cramming six episodes onto four DVDs caused. It saves space (and I'm sure it saves a few dollars for Funi as well having to press fewer discs), but it looks really bad. I'll probably give my box set away and just hunt the singles down.
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