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CrowLia



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PostPosted: Fri Apr 05, 2013 1:12 pm Reply with quote
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So far, Mario, you're the only dude from Mexico chimin' in, so, kudos!


I'm wondering if my email didn't reach Brian or he just ditched it due to my lack of hate for piracy, because I'm from Mexico too and wrote a lengthy reply to this topic, on which I feel very strongly about.
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Divineking



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PostPosted: Fri Apr 05, 2013 1:21 pm Reply with quote
I have to say that recasting issues are probably the aspect of english dubbing I hate the most, and it's definently the biggest edge Japan has over us in that respect since as mentioned, it almost never happens. Heck they didn't even recast Goku when he went from a kid in the original Dragonball to an adult in Dragonball Z and for the Persona franchise they've compensated for the fact that Igor's seiyuu passed away by mixing together some of his old dialogue. That's some dedication. Laughing

I do sometimes wish we could get the same level of dedication here when it comes to that aspect of voice acting but of course it really isn't worth the effort for VA's sometimes so it's understandable I guess...
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Ian K



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PostPosted: Fri Apr 05, 2013 1:31 pm Reply with quote
For people who want more info on the evolution of animation syles and techniques, you can watch this panel on that very subject.

Or you can just hang at Anipages obsessively.
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doctordoom85



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PostPosted: Fri Apr 05, 2013 1:32 pm Reply with quote
Wait, girls don't play "real" video games like Bioshock Infinite? So I was hallucinating that hour-long discussion (yes, the game's THAT awesome to warrant talking that long) with an attractive girl from work about that particular game yesterday? Wink
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 05, 2013 1:33 pm Reply with quote
On choosing which anime to watch at the start of each season. First of all I only like to watch 5 to 7 simulcasts per season. I try to find as much information (what the story is about, the staff, animation studio) as I can about new shows. I sample up to 10 shows that are legally streamed (I don't do illegal streams). In the end I usually end up sticking with 4-5 shows per season.
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kakoishii



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PostPosted: Fri Apr 05, 2013 1:37 pm Reply with quote
Divineking wrote:
I have to say that recasting issues are probably the aspect of english dubbing I hate the most, and it's definently the biggest edge Japan has over us in that respect since as mentioned, it almost never happens. Heck they didn't even recast Goku when he went from a kid in the original Dragonball to an adult in Dragonball Z and for the Persona franchise they've compensated for the fact that Igor's seiyuu passed away by mixing together some of his old dialogue. That's some dedication. Laughing

I do sometimes wish we could get the same level of dedication here when it comes to that aspect of voice acting but of course it really isn't worth the effort for VA's sometimes so it's understandable I guess...

I really think in the US it just becomes more about money than anything else. I mean just look at what happened with that Trigun Badlands movie. Funi barely tried to get the original cast back together and when the actors dared to ask for a wage that wouldn't put them in the red just from traveling expenses, negotiations were completely severed and they moved on to whoever would be cost effective to get to fill the roles. It doesn't help that American dub actors can't really make a career out of dubbing anime like japanese seiyuus can, thus they're more likely to move around to where the work is or even decide to do something else entirely than stay in the business and be faithful to whatever works they've done and the sequels associated with them.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 05, 2013 2:42 pm Reply with quote
I'll be honest: I don't usually read the Answerfans segments in their entirety, but this week I clung onto every word. Fascinating stuff!
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Tenchi



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PostPosted: Fri Apr 05, 2013 3:13 pm Reply with quote
Question of the Week: Eh, nothing this spring seems to be screaming "must watch now" at me. I watched the first episode of OreImo season one whenever it was that it aired, it seemed like the sort of anime I'd enjoy, but I just didn't get into it. Not too sure why, maybe it's just too "meta" for my tastes (even though I did enjoy Lucky Star, the queen of "meta" anime). I saw the first episode of Chuunibyo after it finished airing and I liked it a bit more but haven't gotten around to watching the rest.

I did enjoy A Certain Scientific Railgun but I know the new season is going to cover the "Sisters" arc, which I've already read (most of) in manga form and, to be frank, it's rather depressing. I'm sure I'll get around to watching the new season of that eventually, but I'm already feeling a bit gloomy right now and am just not in the mood to watch anything that's a downer. (I do hope the new Railgun season has some slice-of-life episodes; I know some people dismiss those episodes as "filler" but I like the "filler" episodes of that show best.)

None of the shows that aren't sequels to existing anime have really caught my attention yet. I'll wait a few weeks and see what the buzz is on Sankak-... erm, I mean "Twitter".

I actually looked forward to the winter season more than I am looking forward to the spring season, primarily because of a new season of Minami-Ke, which turned out to be very good, and also Kotoura-san and Tamako Market. Following three series at once is usually my limit, if I find out anything else was worth watching I can always go back and watch them later.
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Chagen46



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PostPosted: Fri Apr 05, 2013 4:36 pm Reply with quote
Ah, a question I can answer.

When it comes to shows, I don't watch much. My ADHD is far too great for me to sit still and watch a ton of shows (even watching one episode of one show is a big endeavor for me), but I usually get my picks from the various summaries I see as the season approaches.

Maybe it's because I'm a writer. In the writing world, there's an unofficial rule that says "any pitch you want to get published needs to be shorter than a hypothetical 3-floor elevator ride but interesting enough to hook the agent's attention." I'm not kidding, most pitches take only about half a minute to say and, in that half-minute, must contain the title, name of the main character, genre AND an overall description of the beginning of the book. This is, as you'd expect, REALLY effin' hard. So maybe that's why I put so much stock into the "pitches" of anime I get from ANN and other places before the season begins.

I do, however, also take art into account--if there's enough cute girls I'll suck up my pride and watch it--and, if not original, other people saying the source material is good.
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RyanSaotome



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PostPosted: Fri Apr 05, 2013 4:39 pm Reply with quote
I watch whatever shows interest me from the season charts, and based on stuff I heard about previously. Like if an anime is based on a really well liked manga or LN (and is in a genre I like), I'll watch it. Also, anything with nice looking character designs I'll at least give a chance to.

I generally watch a ton of stuff though... typically like 15-20 new shows a season.
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Shaterri



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PostPosted: Fri Apr 05, 2013 4:58 pm Reply with quote
Re: ranting about what 'recent anime' and 'old stuff' means... I have to admit, one of the most depressing items on the Sakuracon schedule this past week was their 'older anime fans' panel - which was talking about fans 25 and over. Yes, midway through your 20s is apparently enough to qualify as an older anime fan. I'll just be here in the corner, rubbing my flashing red crystal and hoping nobody notices...
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Yoda117



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PostPosted: Fri Apr 05, 2013 5:22 pm Reply with quote
"You still hear them pop up on Funimation dubs from time to time, though, since software like SourceConnect (a plug-in for ProTools, the ubiquitous audio recording workstation) allows dub sessions to happen over the internet, provided the actor has access to a decent recording studio."

Two things:

1) you'll need access to a recording area that matches the same level (or exceeds) the acoustical environment of the studio where the recording is being done. Most VAs don't have anything close to that (sorry, but a walk-in closet doesn't really count).

Also take into consideration the recording chain. If the talent doesn't have gear which provides a similar sound to the studio, odds are the effort is wasted. Some studios use very clean preamps and AD/DA interfaces. Some prefer to use gear that has a little color to it. What the talent has needs to be very close in nature, else it'll sound "off" to the audience (it's a characteristic of acoutical habituation... pretty nifty science into how the body notices and unconsciously reacts to sounds which aren't the same).

2) How many anime studios do you know of which use SC? I know of maybe one. It also requires a bit more that just ProTools and SC to pull off a dubbing session. There's a physical HW footprint which needs to be acknowledged. Again, most VO folks don't have that kind of setup (I know of few professional studios who can do it... most are in LA; I know of one VA who has the gear to do it, and he doesn't do much anime).

I could nitpick away on this, but those are the two biggies. There are several folks who used to do a lot of anime VO work, but who don't because the studios where it's recorded haven't kept up with the technology. Great comment, but I needed to point that stuff out.

and don't get me started on using SC via most home broadband connections... that can be painful if you're in a well populated area.

FWIW: SC can be used interchangably with other DAW applications besides PT. Used it with great success via Ripper and AA, but truth be told, PT is still the king of the hill when it comes to the software in use.
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DavidShallcross



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PostPosted: Fri Apr 05, 2013 5:24 pm Reply with quote
Shaterri wrote:
Yes, midway through your 20s is apparently enough to qualify as an older anime fan. I'll just be here in the corner, rubbing my flashing red crystal and hoping nobody notices...


Runner!

Anime conventions seem to run very young these days, while the SF conventions I attend are running older and older.
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brand



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PostPosted: Fri Apr 05, 2013 5:25 pm Reply with quote
Shaterri wrote:
Re: ranting about what 'recent anime' and 'old stuff' means... I have to admit, one of the most depressing items on the Sakuracon schedule this past week was their 'older anime fans' panel - which was talking about fans 25 and over. Yes, midway through your 20s is apparently enough to qualify as an older anime fan. I'll just be here in the corner, rubbing my flashing red crystal and hoping nobody notices...


I feel you. Every year I go to Otakon, I can't tell if I'm just getting older, or the youth getting more obnoxious. I can't remember if I was that annoying in my early days. The worst was going to a smaller more local con and everyone outside of my friends where like 14. I think it is a huge part of why I like PAX East more than any anime cons now is that the age skews to late 20s early 30s. Sure there are kids, but often they are there because of their parents.
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Yoda117



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PostPosted: Fri Apr 05, 2013 5:32 pm Reply with quote
There's a running joke I have with a friend of mine from an experience at Katsucon back in 2006. Long story short, someone was talking to him about this awesome "old school" anime that he'd just seen and was recommending to everyone.

Hellsing.

It was at that moment that I first truly felt old.
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