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NEWS: Fake C&D Letter


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Riza|Hawkeye



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PostPosted: Wed Jan 04, 2006 8:57 pm Reply with quote
hi,
first off, if this is in the wrong place, then mods please move it.

yesterday, we recieved what seemed to be a C&D letter from Geneon, telling us to stop subbing and distributing Amaenaideyo, as they claimed they had the license now.

We had no way of backing this up, i.e. we couldnt find any announcements on ANN, AoD etc.

Today we had our tracker shut down, as they had been informed of 'unusual high usage' on our tracker.

I know a C&D letter is not unheard of, but if anybody can confirm if Geneon has Amaenaideyo or not, that would be a great help.

A copy of the email is at: [link removed because it's a fansub site]
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Ataru



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PostPosted: Wed Jan 04, 2006 9:46 pm Reply with quote
Riza|Hawkeye wrote:

yesterday, we recieved what seemed to be a C&D letter from Geneon, telling us to stop subbing and distributing Amaenaideyo, as they claimed they had the license now.
Um, bummer dude, I guess. I do like this part.
C&D wrote:
Geneon Entertainment (USA), Inc. respects the fact fansub groups, such as yourself, thrive on providing translated material to dedicated viewers...
It beats a lawyer with a blunt object at you door.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 05, 2006 12:26 am Reply with quote
No, Geneon USA has never been publicly attached to the project before.

It's a somewhat odd C&D.

But I can easily ask about it. No guarantees that they'll have anything to say though.

-t
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 05, 2006 4:14 am Reply with quote
I find it odd that Geneon would send a C&D for just one anime. I don't think it wasn't even that popular. But it's their legal right to do so. I hope it's licenced though since I've been watching some of it.

I didn't know licensing companies respected fansubs. That's funny considering how so many people here don't respect fansubs but the actual company they say they are hurting does respect them.
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GATSU



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PostPosted: Thu Jan 05, 2006 6:42 am Reply with quote
Judging by the photo at ANN, it looks like a Tenchi clone. What the hell's with all the harem crap coming from that company lately?
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Riza|Hawkeye



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PostPosted: Thu Jan 05, 2006 9:30 am Reply with quote
I think there is no need to worry about it now, we are certain it is a member we recently kicked out.

he was also tried to mess with our anidb group entry, and has tried to dos me too.

notice i said 'tried' there Wink

it would make sense for him to try this too.

so personally, i believe it now to be a complete hoax! so, sorry to have caused a bit of fuss Anime smile

i guess this thread can be locked/deleted

thanks for the help anyway Smile
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 05, 2006 1:46 pm Reply with quote
There you go, fake.
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The Xenos



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PostPosted: Thu Jan 05, 2006 2:15 pm Reply with quote
Seems someone didn't like their Buddhist nuns in horny situations.

-Xenos
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Serge



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PostPosted: Thu Jan 05, 2006 2:18 pm Reply with quote
Who, or why would anyone do this?
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Riza|Hawkeye



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PostPosted: Thu Jan 05, 2006 2:24 pm Reply with quote
well its as i said earlier, it is possibly a member we recently kicked out.

but once again, thanks so much for the help you guys... we started to worry a little back there Razz
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Lady Multi



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PostPosted: Thu Jan 05, 2006 2:34 pm Reply with quote
It should be thought to be a fake anyway by the email adress it was sent from, neh--i.e. not official Geneon email addresses.

No company information...no contact information...and no legal copyright information.

Definitely fake~

Whoever wrote this was a complete idiot and knew nothing of legalities held by companies nor the fact that he/she can be sued for impersinating someone else that could damage their reputation. Hmm...arguing about legalities by breaking the law...how justifying...
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Riza|Hawkeye



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PostPosted: Thu Jan 05, 2006 2:37 pm Reply with quote
well it appeared to have been sent from '[email protected]'
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pythos



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PostPosted: Thu Jan 05, 2006 4:39 pm Reply with quote
Somewhat odd? As a formal legal secretary with years of experience, not once did I ever begin a business or legal letter with "Greetings." We were alot more formal and precise than that.

The letter doesn't even read like a legit business or legal letter should. There's so much missing that Geneon or their legal reps would automatically have included.

Tempest, did your contact at Geneon indicate if they're be following up on the letter?
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Riza|Hawkeye



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PostPosted: Thu Jan 05, 2006 4:55 pm Reply with quote
they already followed up.

and i guess this stupid letter is an insult to Geneon too lol.
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zegron



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PostPosted: Thu Jan 05, 2006 5:58 pm Reply with quote
Just for fun here are a couple of examples of real C&D letters.

OMG Star Trek infringer!

EMI C&D to "The Grey album"
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