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Hoppy800



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PostPosted: Wed Mar 04, 2015 12:33 pm Reply with quote
Speaking of lovable mascot characters for kids you should do an import roundup on Nashi-jiru Busha! Funassyi VS Dragons for March's import roundup. Also, I recommend you do Theatrhythm Dragon Quest. I found that both of these were a bit interesting.
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Yadilie



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PostPosted: Wed Mar 04, 2015 1:06 pm Reply with quote
Eh, are you talking this week or next week for Revelations 2? Episode 2 Contemplation came out yesterday. Episode 3 is next week.
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enurtsol



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PostPosted: Wed Mar 04, 2015 4:07 pm Reply with quote
Saw those 13 eps of Dragon Warrior Laughing


Murder, She wrote:

Dilly Dallie: Shilly Shallie


Advent Children?
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Lord Dcast



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PostPosted: Wed Mar 04, 2015 5:04 pm Reply with quote
Great. Another Gunvolt for people to get excited for, while poor ol' Australia waits impatiently for the first one. What's taking it so damn long!
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BadNewsBlues



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They'd probably turn it off to watch Johnny Test or play Angry Birds,


FYI Johnny Test aired it's final season ages ago.......but at least your hypothetical kids can watch Uncle Grandpa instead.

They'd probably turn it off to watch Johnny Test or play Angry Birds.

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Fans remain divided between those who disliked the game and those who just disliked the bratty new Dante


What about the third camp that genuinely liked the game and Dante?
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leafy sea dragon



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PostPosted: Thu Mar 05, 2015 2:23 am Reply with quote
What channel and time slot did the Dragon Warrior show air on? Considering shows from that time rarely fell off that quick (though it certainly did happen), if a show failed to find an audience, it's either because it's on a channel no one cared about like TBS or USA (though The Adventures of Sonic the Hedgehog did decently rerun there), or it was up against some tough competition, airing at the same time as a more popular show (which I'd argue is what ultimately did Digimon in, as Fox kept putting it at the same time as Pokémon).

Say what one wishes about Haim Saban, but the man really knew how to market his shows to kids.

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Nobita, Doraemon's young and frazzled charge, has to perfect his calligraphy in order to defeat monsters and solve whatever problem his blue cat-bot guest has caused.


Wait, doesn't Nobita normally cause problems that everybody else has to solve, then they get fed up with him and make him solve it himself?
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It's better the most of the cartoons that greeted kids in the early 1990s.


Not sure what early '90s you lived through, but I distinctly remember the likes of Tintin, Rugrats, TailSpin, Pink Panther, Aladdin, Darkwing Duck, Gargoyles, Aeon Flux, Space Ghost Coast to Coast, The Tick, Fantastic Four, Iron Man, Spider-Man, X-Men, and arguably the greatest Western cartoon ever produced, Batman: TAS. Pretty sure a '90s anime based on a licenced property - which are almost universally average to bad even today - probably doesn't hold a candle to half of those...

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Yet Code Name: S.T.E.A.M. comes from... Intelligent Systems, a team known for... rejecting the trendy, begoggled, come-hither gaze of steampunk.


Having not tried something before and rejecting said thing are completely different states. Please find me some source where someone from Nintendo or IS has spoken out against steampunk aesthetics?
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Levitz9



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PostPosted: Thu Mar 05, 2015 10:24 am Reply with quote
So, I take it I'm the only guy who sees the name 'Tom Sawyer' associated with Codename: C.O.S.P.L.A.Y.-B.A.I.T. and tries making Rush references? It's... it's Tom Sawyer, people.

A modern-day warrior, mean-mean stride...



...today's Tom Sawyer... mean-mean stride... Embarassed
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BadNewsBlues



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PostPosted: Thu Mar 05, 2015 5:55 pm Reply with quote
lizardking461 wrote:


Not sure what early '90s you lived through, but I distinctly remember the likes of Tintin, Rugrats, TailSpin, Pink Panther, Aladdin, Darkwing Duck, Gargoyles, Aeon Flux, Space Ghost Coast to Coast, The Tick, Fantastic Four, Iron Man, Spider-Man, X-Men, and arguably the greatest Western cartoon ever produced, Batman: TAS. Pretty sure a '90s anime based on a licenced property - which are almost universally average to bad even today - probably doesn't hold a candle to half of those...


I find it weird you throw anime's based off licensed properties under the bus, but then list 4 shows based off of licensed properties which were either terrible,aged horribly, or both. Also weird is the inclusion of Space Ghost CTC which was an unnecessary parody reboot of a 1960's kid cartoon and wasn't as far as I can recall intended for kids unlike every other show you mentioned.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 05, 2015 6:25 pm Reply with quote
BadNewsBlues wrote:

I find it weird you throw anime's based off licensed properties under the bus, but then list 4 shows based off of licensed properties which were either terrible,aged horribly, or both. Also weird is the inclusion of Space Ghost CTC which was an unnecessary parody reboot of a 1960's kid cartoon and wasn't as far as I can recall intended for kids unlike every other show you mentioned.


Iron-Man and Fantastic 4 may have been average, but they still had a better sense of story-telling and characterisation than any anime based on a licenced product I've ever seen. X-Men and Spider-Man are still fantastic kids shows, so not sure what you're getting at regarding them having aged badly - just because you would find them harder to watch as an adult doesn't diminish them as good kids cartoons. That's what makes Batman: TAS the greatest of the lot, in that for someone returning to the show as an adult there's just as much to take away from it as there was for them as a kid.
Also, interesting use of the word "unnecessary": pray tell, exactly which cartoons - or, for that matter, pieces of entertainment in general - are 'necessary'? Regardless of that, there's also the fact that the show itself was brilliant, which usually renders a purely aesthetic matter significant (and thus not without point or merit i.e. 'unnecessary') to most people...
Furthermore, I'm pretty sure that most Western anime fans born in the late 1980s or early '90s watched, say, Cowboy Bebop as a child - just because the intended demographic may be different doesn't mean that there weren't many children who watched Space Ghost CTC...

All in all, my point still stands - there were many fantastic cartoons in the early 1990s, so the original statement I quoted was indeed questionable.
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BadNewsBlues



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PostPosted: Thu Mar 05, 2015 10:45 pm Reply with quote
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X-Men and Spider-Man are still fantastic kids shows, so not sure what you're getting at regarding them having aged badly


Animation wise neither show aged particularly well.

lizardking461 wrote:
just because you would find them harder to watch as an adult doesn't diminish them as good kids cartoons.


It's a subjective thing of course while there are people who like those shows either aware of their various flaws or not, there are people who are aware of their flaws and don't like them because of those reasons I myself am in the second camp and my age has nothing to do with that.

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Also, interesting use of the word "unnecessary": pray tell, exactly which cartoons - or, for that matter, pieces of entertainment in general - are 'necessary'? Regardless of that, there's also the fact that the show itself was brilliant, which usually renders a purely aesthetic matter significant (and thus not without point or merit i.e. 'unnecessary') to most people...


It was a parody reboot of an old somewhat obscure Hanna-Barbera cartoon, that used recycled animation from said series, done in the style of a talk-show, and shown on a network that was primarily catering towards younger viewers.

How else can I explain why this show in particular was unnecessary?

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Furthermore, I'm pretty sure that most Western anime fans born in the late 1980s or early '90s watched, say, Cowboy Bebop as a child


I would think the majority of the people who watched Cowboy Bebop when it eventually was imported to the west were in their teens or older and not under the age of 12 nor would've probably had much interest in the show and that's only if they somehow managed to stay up that late on a school night.

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All in all, my point still stands - there were many fantastic cartoons in the early 1990s, so the original statement I quoted was indeed questionable.


To be fair so was your statement that followed it since everyone here as far I can tell grew up in different decades and in different parts of the world and each has different opinions when it comes to the quality of certain things from those various time periods.
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toddc



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PostPosted: Fri Mar 06, 2015 12:53 am Reply with quote
lizardking461 wrote:
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It's better the most of the cartoons that greeted kids in the early 1990s.


Not sure what early '90s you lived through, but I distinctly remember the likes of Tintin, Rugrats, TailSpin, Pink Panther, Aladdin, Darkwing Duck, Gargoyles, Aeon Flux, Space Ghost Coast to Coast, The Tick, Fantastic Four, Iron Man, Spider-Man, X-Men, and arguably the greatest Western cartoon ever produced, Batman: TAS. Pretty sure a '90s anime based on a licenced property - which are almost universally average to bad even today - probably doesn't hold a candle to half of those...


If you want to get technical, a number of those come from the mid-1990s. The Tick, Gargoyles, Space Ghost and many of the Marvel superhero shows (whose merits are debatable) didn't start until 1994 or later. And Aeon Flux really wasn't aimed at children.

Most of the kids' cartoons of the early 1990s were closer in quality to James Bond Jr. and Stunt Dawgs than Batman: The Animated Series, I'm afraid.
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leafy sea dragon



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PostPosted: Fri Mar 06, 2015 1:52 am Reply with quote
Sturgeon's Rule, of course. For every breakout show like Gargoyles, you had at least five or six shows nobody liked and thus nobody remembered, like Hyperman or Santo Bugito.
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belvadeer





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God Eater 2:

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It's still not particularly deep in plot, but as a Monster Hunter clone it's among the best.


Compared to any MH, God Eater tells an actual story and one that's quite good if you pay attention to the details (for example, in the first game, Lindow's whole backstory was pretty interesting, though I've yet to finish the first game).

Doramoji:

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And now that Doraemon is airing on Disney XD, kids all over this nation can delight in Doraemon's trans-dimensional robot pouch and the inevitable minor chaos he creates.


Problem is the currently dubbed episodes have looped almost six or seven times through at this point. That bothers me highly because it makes me think they've given up on the show. As I stated before, despite the inconsistent editing, the dub has the perfect cast and is performed quite well. Perhaps I'm overly worrying and they're just working on trying to dub a whole new batch of episodes for release soon, but when you consider how long anime tends to last on Disney XD (read: not very long at all), it is cause for concern.

A couple of months ago, I watched the 2006 remake of Nobita's Dinosaur and I absolutely loved it. I want more dubbed Doraemon, gosh darn it! (<----censored for the U.S. broadcast lol)
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Shippoyasha



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PostPosted: Fri Mar 06, 2015 3:25 am Reply with quote
Galgun definitely looks way cuter than last, so hopefully it has a lot of moe aspects as well as the erotic. Kind of curious how well the first game did, but it's cool it's getting a sequel.

Also, the Dragon Quest anime was pretty popular in my childhood. Especially among girls who liked that pervy Dragonball style comedy. Good times!
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