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NEWS: Live-Action Rurouni Kenshin 'Final Chapter' Films' Teaser Previews Kenshin vs. Enishi




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cookiemanstah



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PostPosted: Thu Feb 20, 2020 8:31 pm Reply with quote
is it wrong to not like the fact watsuki profits off these films
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 20, 2020 8:46 pm Reply with quote
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is it wrong to not like the fact watsuki profits off these films

It's based on his work and the intellectual property that he owns. Thus, he should profit from it. Which part of that is wrong?
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cookiemanstah



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PostPosted: Thu Feb 20, 2020 8:49 pm Reply with quote
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cookiemanstah wrote:
is it wrong to not like the fact watsuki profits off these films

It's based on his work and the intellectual property that he owns. Thus, he should profit from it. Which part of that is wrong?

it's not like i implied he shouldn't. Just the fact, you know, *he* profits in general.
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 20, 2020 9:03 pm Reply with quote
cookiemanstah wrote:
is it wrong to not like the fact watsuki profits off these films


It's been brought up in other articles regarding these movies that Shueisha's policy, as evidenced by the Hideaki Sorachi's comments regarding the live-action Gintama movie, is a one-time royalty before pre-production, and nothing else. Therefore, Watsuki likely already got all the money he was owed before this movie even got started, and any money it earns in Japanese theaters will not go to him, whatsoever.
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AiddonValentine



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cookiemanstah wrote:

it's not like i implied he shouldn't. Just the fact, you know, *he* profits in general.


And it's not even just monetary; there's also notoriety involved.
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I'll admit these movies are looking very cool, and reminding me what I enjoyed about the first three movies--but speaking for myself, I have been unable to go back to them after finding out what I did about the original author and have no drive to see these new ones should Funimation still feel compelled to get them in spite of everything. Some seem to think that as long as the original author doesn't get paid, that's enough to "separate the art from the artist". I have no understanding of that, because the way I see it, it doesn't remotely matter if the author gets paid or not--nothing changes the fact this was all created by him in the first place, and I just can't get over that and enjoy these movies on their own (again, speaking for myself).
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pachy_boy wrote:
I'll admit these movies are looking very cool, and reminding me what I enjoyed about the first three movies--but speaking for myself, I have been unable to go back to them after finding out what I did about the original author and have no drive to see these new ones should Funimation still feel compelled to get them in spite of everything. Some seem to think that as long as the original author doesn't get paid, that's enough to "separate the art from the artist". I have no understanding of that, because the way I see it, it doesn't remotely matter if the author gets paid or not--nothing changes the fact this was all created by him in the first place, and I just can't get over that and enjoy these movies on their own (again, speaking for myself).


It's not just enough,sadly,and it's hard. Despite Watsuki's vile and inexcusable actions,he did create a beautiful story. It's like separating Alice in Wonderland from Lewis Carroll who was (and still is,to this day) accused of being on drugs while writing the story,or Harry Potter from J.K.Rowling given her recent controversies.

My admiration is for Kenshin,not Watsuki.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 21, 2020 8:45 pm Reply with quote
Hmm... one interesting question... The trailer shows a character to who appears to be Otowa Hyōko (or possibly Nakajō of the Yaminobu). It makes me wonder whether these new movies will include all of Enishi's Six Comrades? What complicates things is that the first Kenshin movie already featured Gein and Inui Banjin as working as hired henchmen for Kanryū Takeda. It will be interesting to see if the same actors reprise those roles.

Although... honestly their appearance in the first Kenshin film wasn't very recognizable as their manga counterparts. For example the "Gein" that appears in that movie fights a lot more like Otowa from the manga (a ninja with numerous hidden assassin weapons) rather than Gein from the manga (a karakuri puppet master).
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russ869 wrote:
Hmm... one interesting question... The trailer shows a character to who appears to be Otowa Hyōko (or possibly Nakajō of the Yaminobu). It makes me wonder whether these new movies will include all of Enishi's Six Comrades? What complicates things is that the first Kenshin movie already featured Gein and Inui Banjin as working as hired henchmen for Kanryū Takeda. It will be interesting to see if the same actors reprise those roles.

Although... honestly their appearance in the first Kenshin film wasn't very recognizable as their manga counterparts. For example the "Gein" that appears in that movie fights a lot more like Otowa from the manga (a ninja with numerous hidden assassin weapons) rather than Gein from the manga (a karakuri puppet master).


I'm interested in two things:one,if the first movie will be anything like the Trust and Betrayal OVA,the only one of the two I actually enjoyed,and two,how Kaoru's "death" will play out.
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 22, 2020 3:38 pm Reply with quote
Have they cast Tomoe yet?
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MFrontier wrote:
Have they cast Tomoe yet?


Not as far as I know but it could be the same actress who appeared in the flashback back in the first movie.
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 22, 2020 6:33 pm Reply with quote
Nobody would notice if they recast Tomoe because her face isn't even seen during that flashback in the first movie.
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