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Sisyphusson66



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PostPosted: Fri Aug 21, 2020 2:24 pm Reply with quote
While I haven't seen the other two films yet (waiting to watch them all in one viewing session if possible), I have read the vn. I am disappointed to hear that there is some level of narrative tinkering that harms the importance of Illya and Kirei in favor of more Sakura, especially the former. The Heaven's Feel arc's strength, for me, was never the Sakura/Shirou relationship, but the themes of family and fate. By cutting down on Illya's contribution, it hinders that theme as it applies to both her and Shirou.

Still massively looking forward to the adaptation. Even if it seems to underplay some of the best the original vn route had to offer, I trust it will improve those aspects of the route that are weak or just poor.
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This is also the part of the story where the adaptation choices in the previous films really affect the emotional payoff down the line, which means that some parts of this film work better than others, for better or worse.

Wherever the last movie's focus is, I should think the best thing is that this trilogy be consistent with itself, just as well as being an adaptation of the source material. It's been said that much characterization was skipped over in the first movie, but if one watches it as a direct follow-up to Fate/Zero everything gels with each other/itself better. I'll be watching the last movie through those same lens before seeing for myself if more could've been done.

Of course the reviewer would steer clear of even hinting if the movie followed the True or Normal End (although I should think it'd be the former, considering past adaptations). The one thing I'm personally curious about is whether or not Rider's Pegasus makes an appearance. I know Pegasus wasn't in the Heaven's Feel VN, but the UBW series had elements added that weren't in the VN, and I always thought seeing Pegasus get the UFOtable treatment would've helped give this final Fate chapter an additional bang.

Anyways, very much looking forward to seeing/getting this!
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KitKat1721



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PostPosted: Fri Aug 21, 2020 4:34 pm Reply with quote
I was surprised just how much I enjoyed the first two Heaven's Feel films, so I'm definitely looking forward to this one whenever we get to see it. If its a satisfying conclusion, I'll be more than happy.
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Vaisaga



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Downplaying some of the Illya and Kirei stuff is fine, because we're already familiar with them from FSN, UBW, and Zero. The first film made it clear that it assumes the viewers are already familiar with the other routes, and the VN was actually structured so that Heaven's Feel only unlocked after you finished the other two routes. Sakura had a very minimal role in the other routes so the least was known about her going in.
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otakunomike



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PostPosted: Fri Aug 21, 2020 5:07 pm Reply with quote
Sisyphusson66 wrote:
By cutting down on Illya's contribution, it hinders that theme as it applies to both her and Shirou.


This to me was the biggest weakness of the second movie which completely excises Shirou and Ilya's talk in the park about how they're related through Kirigitsu, and only briefly hints at that scene with a wordless montage. The dialogue from there comes back in a major way during the final climax and even before then feeds into Ilya's change of heart to help Shirou, so Im really hoping they get some of that back into this movie since HF is really Ilya's best story too.
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Vent



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PostPosted: Fri Aug 21, 2020 7:47 pm Reply with quote
Ultimately there's so much in Heaven's Feel that something was always going to have to give to make it a cohesive movie trilogy. They chose to focus on Sakura's arc to the detriment of the others, but I can't that wasn't the right move. A narrow focus executed perfectly is preferable to trying to do too much and failing to do any of it particularly well.
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 21, 2020 8:01 pm Reply with quote
I was really hoping they added... something into that climatic final fist fight. I've always been curious about the best way to portray it considering both characters martial experiences.

Too bad about the Berserker fight. But I guess it could have been worse.

Hoping there would be more changes from the VN to make the experience smoother.
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AksaraKishou



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PostPosted: Fri Aug 21, 2020 9:12 pm Reply with quote
pachy_boy wrote:
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This is also the part of the story where the adaptation choices in the previous films really affect the emotional payoff down the line, which means that some parts of this film work better than others, for better or worse.

Wherever the last movie's focus is, I should think the best thing is that this trilogy be consistent with itself, just as well as being an adaptation of the source material. It's been said that much characterization was skipped over in the first movie, but if one watches it as a direct follow-up to Fate/Zero everything gels with each other/itself better. I'll be watching the last movie through those same lens before seeing for myself if more could've been done.

Of course the reviewer would steer clear of even hinting if the movie followed the True or Normal End (although I should think it'd be the former, considering past adaptations). The one thing I'm personally curious about is whether or not Rider's Pegasus makes an appearance. I know Pegasus wasn't in the Heaven's Feel VN, but the UBW series had elements added that weren't in the VN, and I always thought seeing Pegasus get the UFOtable treatment would've helped give this final Fate chapter an additional bang.

Anyways, very much looking forward to seeing/getting this!


Regarding the Pegasus spoiler[It is]
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lazydude500



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PostPosted: Sat Aug 22, 2020 3:52 am Reply with quote
I haven't seen the movie yet but FWIW it's not uncommon for the Blu-ray to add new extra footage or improve the animation. Most fans usually aren't aware since they're often unable to view the original theatrical release (in Japan or limited screenings in other countries) and unless a licensor screws up and uses the theatrical video master, there usually isn't a side by side comparison to see with the finalized home video version.

It's easier to compare with TV series since there's usually a simulcast that's widely available.
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zrdb



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PostPosted: Sat Aug 22, 2020 7:27 pm Reply with quote
When is it going to come over here, damn it? I know-covid 19 etc. but still!!
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