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James02
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It's strange that Gen Z has been using that flag. It's just some people using though.
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mdo7
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| Posted: Mon Oct 20, 2025 10:12 pm |
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Yeah, I was wondering when that flag would turned up at a anti-Trump protest in the US, nice to see it making an appearance despite I'm not a fan of One Piece.
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YagamiBlackstone255
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| Posted: Mon Oct 20, 2025 10:51 pm |
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I hope One Piece wont get Voltes V'd...
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That Little Rapscallion
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| Posted: Tue Oct 21, 2025 4:19 am |
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One Piece has multiple arcs of the Straw Hats helping and supporting kings though...
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Tiago97
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| Posted: Tue Oct 21, 2025 6:50 am |
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| That Little Rapscallion wrote: | | One Piece has multiple arcs of the Straw Hats helping and supporting kings though... |
Yeah, benevolent kings, not kings who hate their own people. A few of those same arcs are about deposing shitty rulers.
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KefkaesqueXIII
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| Posted: Tue Oct 21, 2025 7:06 am |
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| That Little Rapscallion wrote: | | One Piece has multiple arcs of the Straw Hats helping and supporting kings though... |
You are correct in that the Straw Hats are less against monarchy itself and more just anti-oppresion.
That said, the protesters are typically making a comparison between whatever government they're protesting against and the World Government/Nobels (who the Straw Hats have never supported and always end up in direct conflict with, even if they aren't actively campaigning to overthrow them the way the Revolutionary Army is).
The "Existing is not a crime!!!" line and the "Shoot down that flag." scene from Enis Lobby in particular still sometimes get shared around as rallying points against oppression of minorities.
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Harleyquin
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| Posted: Tue Oct 21, 2025 7:10 am |
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Indonesia loves Japanese manga (like One Piece) - One Piece deals with rebellions against tyranny - Indonesian government announces perks for the MPs while the rest of the government is struggling economically - Indonesian Youth protest with the Straw Hat pirate flags - the Indonesian government backs down temporarily - Other youth in similar economic situations see the same thing and copy it - it goes viral - English-speaking media outside of the first observed instances start observing it and reporting it.
It says much about how desperate the other countries are in the global economic climate that they'll grasp at anything which might be a lucky mascot for their own situation, no matter how utterly unoriginal it is when removed from the original context (I don't expect mass outbreaks of pirate flags in Europe and the US to effect the same change Indonesia briefly saw since the riots there saw loss of life unlike the far more tepid protests witnessed outside of Asia).
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Matros
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| Posted: Tue Oct 21, 2025 8:15 am |
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| That Little Rapscallion wrote: | | One Piece has multiple arcs of the Straw Hats helping and supporting kings though... |
It's almost as if context is important...
Pick up the manga and reread those arcs.
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Cardcaptor Takato
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| Posted: Tue Oct 21, 2025 10:06 am |
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| That Little Rapscallion wrote: | | One Piece has multiple arcs of the Straw Hats helping and supporting kings though... |
And Nazis use moe blob avatars all the time in spite of the characters clearly not being Nazis so who cares?
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Wizardizar
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| Posted: Tue Oct 21, 2025 10:43 am |
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I don't want to dunk on that guy too hard, but sometimes you put pure political ideology aside just so you can have a cool fantasy story.
But besides that yeah, it makes sense. One Piece wears it's politics on its sleeve and is pretty openly anti-fascist, so a generation that grew up with that symbol would adopt it in their own fight as they see it reflect their life and struggles.
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CreativelyFwrd
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| Posted: Tue Oct 21, 2025 11:15 am |
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If you remove the context from any series, character, or scene you can co-opt whatever you want to fit your preferred ideology. For those in the know it can be weird but sometimes it's really funny. I always find it funny when people post the Kazuma Kiryu picture of him saying “You can’t judge someone just because they don’t conform to society’s standards of sexual normalcy!" and they clearly don't know the context is him defending a pedophile who pays high school girls for sexual favors.
| KefkaesqueXIII wrote: | | The "Existing is not a crime!!!" line and the "Shoot down that flag." scene from Enis Lobby in particular still sometimes get shared around as rallying points against oppression of minorities. |
Interestingly, Franky's "existing is not a crime" line was a declaration of the moral neutrality regarding the building and existence of weapons and how Robin should not feel guilty about her knowledge. It'd unironically make more sense to being co-opted by 2nd Amendment supporters than some kind of oppression of minorities given the context of which it was spoken.
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That Little Rapscallion
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| Posted: Tue Oct 21, 2025 11:42 am |
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| Tiago97 wrote: | | Yeah, benevolent kings, not kings who hate their own people. A few of those same arcs are about deposing shitty rulers. |
I'm just saying maybe people shouldn't use a group of characters who are canonically pro-king for an anti-king protest. But I get it's more about using popular anime characters for attention.
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#Frey04
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| Posted: Tue Oct 21, 2025 11:50 am |
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such an irony, people around the world protesting and using the Jolly Roger Flag, meanwhile Japan's new PM Sanae Takaichi is far right ultraconservative with some of the most dangeous ideas possible for a democratic nation.
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Wizardizar
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| Posted: Tue Oct 21, 2025 1:01 pm |
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| That Little Rapscallion wrote: | | Tiago97 wrote: | | Yeah, benevolent kings, not kings who hate their own people. A few of those same arcs are about deposing shitty rulers. |
I'm just saying maybe people shouldn't use a group of characters who are canonically pro-king for an anti-king protest. But I get it's more about using popular anime characters for attention. |
Buddy, protesters in Madagascar are getting shot, I don't think they are using the flag for "attention". Whose attention anyways? Anime fans? They are not doing this to attract the eyes of some weeb from Idaho.
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Top Gun
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| Posted: Tue Oct 21, 2025 1:57 pm |
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Saw a great protest sign the other day featuring The Punch with St. Charloss redrawn as...well, you know. Luffy is the hero we need right now.
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