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NEWS: Creator: Manga Was Pulled Due to Tokyo Ordinance


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PostPosted: Sun Mar 24, 2013 1:57 am Reply with quote
Another one bites the dust.

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No manga title has been formally restricted under the new rules in their first year of existence. However, the ordinance only applies to publications that are in print or available in release; at least one manga creator reported that some of his books will not be printed after the law went into effect. Aki Sora author Masahiro Itosugi revealed in April of 2011 that volumes 1 and 3 of the series would no longer be printed as of July 2011. Itosugi explained that the biggest problem is the series' depictions of incest, not erotically graphic content.

It seems the officials do not classify a title as being "officially restricted" if they are targeted and pulled, like these cited, but do not continue publication by re-categorizing/re-shelving and reprinting with the adults-only label. Like Aki Sora, Sugarpot e Youkoso would not be considered affected either if Yuzupon ceases printing.

It seems like she's taking the same route as Oku-sama wa Shōgakusei, which continues digitally: Akamatsu's J-Comi Site Posts Adult Manga Restricted by Tokyo Law
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 24, 2013 1:57 am Reply with quote
Wait, wait, wait...

Digital version can still be sold, but not the print version? What's going on here?!
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Hypeathon



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Everyone in this extravagant house except the owner are girls.

Uh...........................huh.
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 24, 2013 2:03 am Reply with quote
Dark Absol wrote:
Wait, wait, wait...

Digital version can still be sold, but not the print version? What's going on here?!

Because technically the ordinance applies to Tokyo, not nation-wide, which means it would be impossible to enforce online
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 24, 2013 2:07 am Reply with quote
Dark Absol wrote:
Wait, wait, wait...

Digital version can still be sold, but not the print version? What's going on here?!


I think the law only affected manga in print that minor's could obtain easily in stores, not digital manga which requires a credit card and removal of child blocks on internet services.

Well this interesting to an extent that I actually want to see why it pulled.

Hypeathon wrote:
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Everyone in this extravagant house except the owner are girls.

Uh...........................huh.


woman seem to own men for sex from the caps I've seen. I would actually need a translation of this material to know what's going on.
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 24, 2013 2:23 am Reply with quote
welcome to sugar pot sounds like an adult title and shouldnt be sold to kids anyway.

Im on tokyo's side with this one.

they just need to make a nation wide rating system and enforce it better and not allow cities to make their own rules like the NY soda ban.
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 24, 2013 4:28 am Reply with quote
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welcome to sugar pot sounds like an adult title and shouldnt be sold to kids anyway.

Im on tokyo's side with this one.

Kids wouldn't be buying it anyways. Someone in highschool? Sure. Children? No.
If you're decision is based simply on sexual scenarios, then that's inconsistent with the many other manga with sexual situations that obscures the crotches, like Toshiue no Hito, or Haruko-san no Niizuma Recipe (a shounen title!).

But their decision is based on subject matter and/or age of characters.

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they just need to make a nation wide rating system and enforce it better and not allow cities to make their own rules like the NY soda ban.

So, something like Denmark? Laughing
But a nation-wide system would be even worse. Even the US does not have any enforced or compulsory media ratings system (though there is tremendous political pressure), but for other regulations, decentralization is the way to go. Power is always going to be abused. The ridiculous NY regulations are a primary example why decentralization is necessary in any kind of government situation.
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 24, 2013 5:05 am Reply with quote
Judging from the pics, it looks like regular H-manga, so if it was sold under an 18+ label I doubt there wouldnt have been any problems.
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 24, 2013 7:32 am Reply with quote
Dark Absol wrote:
Wait, wait, wait...

Digital version can still be sold, but not the print version? What's going on here?!
FUTURE. That is what's happening.
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 24, 2013 8:36 am Reply with quote
potatochobit wrote:
welcome to sugar pot sounds like an adult title and shouldnt be sold to kids anyway.

Im on tokyo's side with this one.

they just need to make a nation wide rating system and enforce it better and not allow cities to make their own rules like the NY soda ban.
Actually, Tokyo's a full-fledged prefecture(or at least on that level - the city of Tokyo was administratively merged with the prefecture of Tokyo to get the modern metropolis of Tokyo).

In any event, it's the parents' responsibility to govern what their kid buys, not the state's.
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Soundmonkey44



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PostPosted: Sun Mar 24, 2013 12:43 pm Reply with quote
And nothing of any value was lost.

But on the other hand basically making it where stores can't sale something just because it has content you don't like is kind of a dick move.

*Although admitingly if I had the power to i'd to the same thing, no sellin Annoying Orange or Jersey Shore DVDs or yea get a heafty fine! Anime hyper Hey I can dream!*
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 24, 2013 12:48 pm Reply with quote
Polycell wrote:
potatochobit wrote:
welcome to sugar pot sounds like an adult title and shouldnt be sold to kids anyway.

Im on tokyo's side with this one.

they just need to make a nation wide rating system and enforce it better and not allow cities to make their own rules like the NY soda ban.
Actually, Tokyo's a full-fledged prefecture(or at least on that level - the city of Tokyo was administratively merged with the prefecture of Tokyo to get the modern metropolis of Tokyo).

In any event, it's the parents' responsibility to govern what their kid buys, not the state's.


So you actually want parents to do their jobs??
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Otaku of the World, UNITE!!!!
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Alexander55



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PostPosted: Sun Mar 24, 2013 2:26 pm Reply with quote
It seems to be that the author of the Manga is female, as evidenced by her blog:

http://norisukeanago.blog.fc2.com/

Aside from her Hentai Manga, she also has some Yaoi series on her page. But that being said, I don't see why this Manga was pulled by the Ordinance. Its just another harem H-Manga. Had she or her publisher labeled it properly, they've probably would have gotten it on print easily UNLESS the Ordinance restricts the creation of Erotic/H-manga that depict young like characters in a setting. But considering how E-Hentai and Fakku are always full of hentai Manga with some High-School aged characters, I don't see how this could have gotten restricted..

Well, good for her I guess if she managed to get it digitally sold in stores. But harem H-manga is not my thing. I prefer for there to be intimacy between a pair of characters or an H manga series to focus a few set of characters instead. The only time I allow harem is when the guy sticks with the one girl they like, like "Oretame", because we know who Kohta ends up with....
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 24, 2013 4:33 pm Reply with quote
Alexander55 wrote:
But considering how E-Hentai and Fakku are always full of hentai Manga with some High-School aged characters, I don't see how this could have gotten restricted...


As has been mentioned the Ordinance only affects Tokyo area print publications. Hence why the manga is still sold online. And going by the last lines of the article:

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Aki Sora author Masahiro Itosugi revealed in April of 2011 that volumes 1 and 3 of the series would no longer be printed as of July 2011. Itosugi explained that the biggest problem is the series' depictions of incest, not erotically graphic content.


So it seems that they are targeting more than simply sex. Hard to know without seeing the actual work, but I would think depictions of incest and/or underage are highly likely in the harem setting described for this work Wink
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