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Fate/Zero (TV).

Difference in opinions I guess. I just found most of them unremarkable compared to most figures that we have seen as Servants like Diarmuid and Medusa...

I don't know about the rest of the world, but Lincoln is pretty 'Legendary' in terms of actual historical figures in the United States.

Difference in opinions I guess. I just found most of them unremarkable compared to most figures that we have seen as Servants like Diarmuid and Medusa.


Of course, there is such a thing as a Servant based off unremarkable non-legendary figures....such as Avenger and Blue Beard.

No idea why they chose Gilles De Rais out of all the choices they could pick.

As for why spoiler[Gilles de Raise] as Caster, my suspicion is this. I have a suspicion that the group of people to which I belong, who thought Saber was spoiler[Joan of Arc at first,] is not at all small.

There needs to be at least one unsympathetic bastard competing in the Holy Grail War.

There are reasons in the story that can justify the likes of Bluebeard. Recall in episode 1, when spoiler[Tokiomi and Kotomine were trying to figure out the identities of the other masters. Tokiomi mentioned that the last ones the Grail chooses to fill the roster are generally weak.] Thus, we have a relatively weak and unremarkable figure like spoiler[Gilles de Rais, though he is quite infamous for being one of the earliest known serial killers.] Interestingly enough, we are also given reasons to believe that Lancer would be relatively weak. Recall in episode 1 that spoiler[Waver stole Melloi's original relic, meant to summon Iskander, so he had to get a replacement. It is easy enough to believe that the relic he got as an emergency would correspond to a hero as strong as the original one he selected.]

As for why spoiler[Gilles de Raise] as Caster, my suspicion is this. I have a suspicion that the group of people to which I belong, who thought Saber was spoiler[Joan of Arc at first,] is not at all small.

The figure need not be ancient. The more important part is that he should be surrounded by legends. The newest hero that made it into a published Fate work is Sasaki Kojiro from the 16-17th century, but Type-Moon was considering more recent ones such as Frankenstein's monster and Jack the Ripper in the canceled Fate/Apocrypha project, and both are from the 19th century.

Correct me if I'm wrong but don't all the heroes used in the series have to have some basis in reality. They don't necessarily have to have actually been magical, so long as they where legendary. Frankenstein's monster couldn't work because it is a purely fictional story not a legend. Figures like king Arthur and Gilgamesh, both have a historical basis heavily debated by historians. Of course their powers and abilities might have been over exaggerated but for the purposes of the series that is irrelevant.

But watching this series really makes me think about what kind of legends id like to see included. Personally I think robin hood would be perfect for the role of archer but I'm not sure if he would be strong enough, I mean he's was a legendary marksman but had no real powers to speak of I think. Also Merlin I would think would be the archetype of the caster class, I mean he is pretty much the stereotypical wizard.