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studioplugnplay
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Press Release from Be Beautiful:
PRESS RELEASE - "Brokeback Manga" and other Yaoi panels at NY ComiCo Brokeback Manga Panel. Saturday, February 25, 6-7 PM. Yaoi is a genre of romance featuring relationships between impossibly beautiful men that is written by women for women. While a cult phenomenon for years, with the release of the motion picture Brokeback Mountain, yaoi has now started to gain mainstream North American attention. Join Be Beautiful Publisher Masumi Homma O'Donnell and Embracing Love author Youka Nitta in a discussion about the past, present, and future of yaoi in both North America and Japan. Well that's it for Gynocrat all- Licensed Yaoi in the US has officially Jumped The Shark for me. I've had it up to here with lame tie-ins to gay cowboys for a genre that was never supposed to be about gey men anyway. The success of Brokeback Mountain [a marginal drama, but well made film] is certainly NOT a harbinger for 'Yaoi' success in America. I'm done. I'm done with 'yaoi'. Thank you, Goodnight. |
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huh?
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it is somewhat excessive. but with all things that become popular, a wave of sub par copies, tie ins, rip offs, etc follow. companies will jump at the chance to make more money (cant blame them). i guess this was to be expected, well maybe not this exactly.
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everlasting
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You know, my stomach just turn inside out...I shall come back with my coments onto that once I get over the disgust...*barf*
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studioplugnplay
Posts: 52 Location: Texas |
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I know cheestfestic tie-ins are the norm, but holy hell, what's next? The Brokeback BigMac?
Spare me, it's insulting now. Ohh just say Brokeback and the broads will just come flying....! 
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everlasting
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Yes, next there shall be Brokeass Big Mac made outa 100% cowboy Brokeass the women will love it since it's 10% more gay then ever...ohh yay!<3
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studioplugnplay
Posts: 52 Location: Texas |
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I just realized something Everlasting- if you are who I think you are... most people are going to view this as a couple of fen snarking, the truth is-you and I both work in the 'yaoi' business to some degree and this lame tie-in is just another embarassing nail in the coffin of licensed BL manga. I've watched some seriously lame things go down recently as far as marketing is concerned and quite frankly I'm tired of it. Forgive me ANN if I sound wanky, but there's a thin line between acceptable marketing and 'hey let's just get attention.' You want to get noticed hit the stage looking good, don't moon the audience. |
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everlasting
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This reminds me of them people that get drunk at parties then strip and run round screaming "look at me I'm an attention whore!"...I sure hope no "marketing" genius involved in the latest stuff reads this...as i sure as hell don't wana see no neky people runing round at cons screaming "look at me I'm soo yaoi!"
And yes, I cringe at these things as I am involved in the BL world and to me they are big slaps on my face...
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deathbringer
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Didn't anyone else see Brokeback Kong? |
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marie-antoinette
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I don't know, I think it makes some sense, because I think Brokeback Mountain has made mainstream some of the issues surrounding yaoi and shounen-ai and I think it would be bad marketting not to try and show the connection, because there clearly is one.
Of course, it could easily be taken too far...but guys, come on, it's just a discussion panel. |
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studioplugnplay
Posts: 52 Location: Texas |
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By this do you mean 'perception and acceptance' issues, because nothing in Brokeback Mountain resembled BL or yaoi to me. 
I feel a discussion panel about devices, roots, and popularity of yaoi and BL manga should not use a film like Brokeback Mountain to get attention. Seriously, I think Aaron McGruder nailed it on the head some months ago when he had Riley calling Grandpa's carry bag 'Brokeback'. It's a lame slang modifier for 'oh so gay' and you know what-that's not what BL was all about, and supposedly that's what the Panel is supposed to be about. 
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Kagemusha
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Yeah, pretty pathetic. I never had a high opinion of most yaoi fans in the first place (no offense, just alot of them are idiots) and this really isn't helping things. I suppose you COULD argue that since it was written by a woman that it's yaoi, but that's beside the point.
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Abarenbo Shogun
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I dunno about you guys, but some of you Manga Loungers need to get off your brokeass asses and get a damn job to pay for manga. I had it with your brokeass asses reading like it's the library.
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marie-antoinette
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Yes, that's what I meant. Just because Brokeback mountain isn't shounen-ai or yaoi doesn't mean they don't overlap quite a bit when it comes to other issues, such as acceptance of homosexuals in culture, the media, etc...and of course, the rather strange-ness of m/m relationships being a turn-on for straight females (in the same way that f/f relationships are a turn-on for straight males). And yaoi doesn't have to be written by a women, and not all yaoi fans are female either. It's just more common. |
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Grimme
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I hardly think most yaoi mangas have a heck of a lot of the couples struggling for acceptance. Brokeback Mountain looked like it was more of a vehicle to get gay relationships accepted rather than a love story. I didn't see any chemistry between the characters the very few times we actually ever saw them together - it was mostly them around their families trying to keep their little secret secret. No yaoi I have ever read dealt more with keeping secret than being with their interest. There are couples in yaoi who don't wish to be found out, but it's really not about that, it's about them - the central topic is their relationship. Associating Brokeback Mountain with yaoi is unrealistic. I really don't care to see their struggle for acceptance, I want to see them!
Harsh as that may sound... 
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marie-antoinette
Posts: 4136 Location: Ottawa, Canada |
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I didn't mean that the stories themselves deal with the issues, it's more an external issue about acceptence, because I would expect that anyone who reads yaoi/shounen-ai has to be accepting of homosexual relationships. I was talking about the issues such movies/manga/anime/etc...raise in our culture, not what they talk about in the actual series. |
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