Forum - View topicHonorifics in Naruto Manga?
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Jamee
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Some questions for anyone with access to the original Naruto manga in Japanese?
1. What honorifics does Sasuke use to refer to Naruto and Sakura? Does he use chan and kun or just san? 2. What honorific does Kakashi use with his students? 3. Is the Hokage referred to as sama or dono? If anyone can answer I'd be very happy! I love Viz's translations except for the removal of the honorifics. |
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Alucalb
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Sasuke doesn't use honorifics when refering to Naruto or Sakura. And it is "Hokage-sama".
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Jamee
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Thanks so much for replying!
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Aromatic Grass
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Not all characters use honorifics. I find that when the honorifics are translated, they tend to get in the way. (This is the only problem I have with Negima!)
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marie-antoinette
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I've never heard anyone say that. I find that honorifics add a lot to a manga, because of all that they reveal about characters and their relationships. The only time I could see them really getting in the way would be something clearly not set in Japan (but I find that amusing in anime as well, like in Gunslinger Girl we have Italians in Italy speaking Japanese). |
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Jamee
Posts: 79 Location: North Carolina |
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Now I'm a little confused. You say not all characters use honorifics, but I thought saying someone's name without an honorific was a sign of an extremely close relationship. Has Del Rey's notes on honorifics been steering me wrong all this time?
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hanachan01
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Well, squads are all forced to be close with one another, so that is the reason they don't use honorifics I assume. I'm not a Naruto fan, so I'm not sure...
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marie-antoinette
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No, that is right, use of honorifics generally suggests a fairly close relationship between two characters, though I'm sure there are exceptions. |
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Aromatic Grass
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Personally, I would rather just have them removed. Like I said, honorifics are all over the place in Negima! and that just makes it all the harder to read. |
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marie-antoinette
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I guess it's just a matter of personal taste then, I find that honourifics provide a much more accurate translation than removing them entirely ever could. |
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Mobiletortoise
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I do know that they say hokagesama (sorry if these have arlready been answered) and sometimes I do believe kakashi says naruto-kun, or sakura-san, or he doesn't use any at all. I do not think sasuke uses any honorifics with his teammates, probably because he doesn't think of their relationship as close at all, even with naruto this far into the series.
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Shorty22
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For some reason, I had thought that Sasuke would call Naruto by his last name, 'Uzumaki', so it'd be as impersonal as possible, since they/he dislike(d) Naruto. And vice versa for Naruto with Sasuke due to their difference in ability and rivalship. Actually, I thought Sasuke would use 'Haruno' for Sakura as well.
I'd also thought that those girls fawning over Sasuke were probably overstepping their boundaries and calling him Sasuke-kun instead of Uchiha-kun, which was more of an annoyance to him and contributed to part of his attitude or something. I do like the reasoning of that they're supposed to be a close group and should be familar with each other. But is that really why, seeing as especially in the beginning, they obviously do not get along and don't like each other? Could it be because it's a action shonen series? Does the series' genre even matter to when/if they use honorifics or a first/last name basis? |
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DarkTenshi90
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Actually, Sasuke really cares about his team mates, he doesn't show it, but he does. Also spoiler[he calls Naruto his best friend] so they don't hate eachother, but they are rivals against one another. |
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