Forum - View topicConfused about Wolf's Rain
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x_Hisoka_x
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I just finished watching the first episode of Wolf's Rain and I think it's a really cool and unique series. I'm enjoying it a lot. I just have one question about the wolves and their human appearance.
Okay, do the wolves just look human or do they feel human...like if you touch them do they have fur or does it feel like skin? Like...do they just appear human or are their like full blown humans? It's confusing because when Tsume tries to save that kid and grabs him with his hand...it relates to him biting him...but he can like carry boxes and hold stuff so in reality is he really holding it in his wolf mouth or in his human hands? Also, when Tsume first encounters Kiba and fights him on the roof top...and the little boy is watching...to him is it a wolf fighting a wolf or Tsume (human form) fighting a wolf...because it flashes back and forth between human and wolf. I know my questions are a little odd and confusing but I would really like to know the wolf/human thing and how it works... |
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Ktimene's Lover
 Posts: 2242 Location: Glendale, AZ (Proudly living in the desert) |
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From what gathered of seeing the first 18 episodes, it's like a hologram they wear.
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Keonyn
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Yeah, as much as I loved the series that particular issue always bothered me. While it's often implied it's nothing more than an illusion they wear you often see them doing things that even a wolf with human intelligence wouldn't be able to do. I guess it all comes down to suspending disbelief, it's a work of fiction so you have to remember some things just seem unreal because they aren't real.
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marie-antoinette
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I definitely agree, there are lots of time that the wolves do things which they shouldn't be able to do, though they do keep them from doing anything particularily impossible, such as driving a car (note that when Tsume is in a car in ep 1 that the driver's side is on the right, not the left). Most of the time however it is just an illusion. One theory has it that if they concentrate really hard the illusion can become more substantial, but it is only a theory and only came up because of the times when the wolves do things they shouldn't be able to do. I definitely think in the end this is one issue to just accept as problematic and move past, because there really is no answer. |
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Deltakiral
 Posts: 3338 Location: Glendora, CA (Avatar Hei from Darker than BLACK) |
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For me I always assumed spoiler[that Wolfs' had the ability to literally turn themselves into humans. Basically because often times you would see characters carrying things that couldn't be held by a wolf in it's mouth. ] As noted above it's not really an issue when you look at it, I don't think that it ever ruin my experience with wolf's rain.....that four episodes recap now that was a killer to the pacing of the show if you ask me. |
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marie-antoinette
Posts: 4136 Location: Ottawa, Canada |
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That theory doesn't really work for me, mainly because spoiler[then it makes less sense why Quent was able to literally see through Toboe's illusion, plus the aforementioned Tsume bitting falling people (first the kid and later Toboe).] |
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Iwatch2muchanime
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Well I always thought that the less concentration they had on the illusion the less it effected people, and if they are normally calm and focused on it, they could even lift things and touch people in ways that they normally couldn't in wolf form. Like a ghost that can lift things unless he's startled or something.
So when he bit the falling kid, he wasn't focused enough on his illusion and the kid saw it, freaked and blamo. |
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Kelly
Posts: 868 Location: New York City |
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I think we're supposed to view the wolves as illusionists rather than shapeshifters. Quent (and perhaps one or two others - I'd have to rewatch to be sure) rant about the wolves "casting a spell on you" - implying that whatever they're doing is affecting humans rather than themselves. Direct contact would naturally break the illusion. So does - as you will see later on - the human being in an abnormal mental state such as alcohol/drug influence, physical illness/feverish state or mental abnormality such as mild retardation. Belief in the wolves and attunement to the spiritual world which they represent is also eventually seen to be a factor for some of those seeing through the illusion.
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jaybug39
 Posts: 552 Location: Oregon, Is it FOOTBALL yet? |
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I finally decided that the wolves were in fact metamorphs, as opposed to only appearing as humans through magical means.
Have you ever seen a dog open a jar? It doesn't matter how much they love peanut butter, a dog just isn't going to unscrew the lid. Thumbs are mandatory. The show used the image of wolves when they fought, or when someone could see through the spell, in order to denote the aspect that is in operation at the time. This shows the true nature of the character. There could be some sort of middle ground where they are half wolf and half human, like any other sufferer of lycanthropy. A person is not seeing a wolf, where a person stands, that person is seeing the wolf as it's true character, not its' physical reality. Mainly we are dealing with the powers of the gods, and so anything could actually happen, as far as I can tell about gods. Can't say for sure, haven't met too many of them, only read about them. I just think it is easier to suspend my disbelief, that the wolves change form, instead of casting magic spells, or emitting an aura of illusion or whatever. |
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marie-antoinette
Posts: 4136 Location: Ottawa, Canada |
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I definitely do not agree with the idea that they are actually changing shape because it just doesn't work. While the illusion idea doesn't really either, I think it is works more times than not.
Since it's never completely explained, there is no way of knowing for sure of course, but unless someone who wrote it comes out and says that they are shape-shifting, I will always believe otherwise. Also, I don't recall them ever opening a jar. Does that actually happen? |
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Ohoni
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It is kinda sureal. I always saw it as it being an illusion, but also in being a full "mental" illusion, not just visual, so that if you touched one while the illusion held it would "feel" like a human to you because that's what your brain is telling you. No clue how they can carry people though, I assume they either use their mouths or throw them over their backs.
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bluepita
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I'm coming in with another vote for illusion and suspending your disbelief. It's been a while since i watched this, but if I remember correctly there are a few scenes that show them walking as humans yet leaving wolf prints. That led me to go with the illusion theory.
Whew, remembered before I posted. I read an interview with Toshihiro Kawamoto in AnimePlay in 2004. (Wolf's Rain character designer.) He says "I wasn't really sure how a wolf could appear as a human being to humans. Apparently, they don't transform like a werewolf but remain wolved on all four paws, while giving the illusion that they are human." Lol, so maybe I read that first then looked to the anime for supporting evidence. |
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Kelly
Posts: 868 Location: New York City |
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[quote="Ohoni"No clue how they can carry people though, I assume they either use their mouths or throw them over their backs.[/quote]
spoiler[Late in the series, we see Blue dragging Quent with her mouth alternating with her human illusion having his arm slung over her shoulder - as well as her illusion trying to pry Hige's collar off with her hands while her real form is doing it with her mouth. We can expand that to an assumption that they are really doing that and other things with their mouths that their illusions show them doing with their hands (e.x. the knife Tsume's illusion is holding early in the series is really his fangs).] |
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jaybug39
Posts: 552 Location: Oregon, Is it FOOTBALL yet? |
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I just think it's a sign of better quality writing, that something could be seen as one thing or another. Never being quite sure.
No I don't remember seeing anyone try to open a jar. To have done so, would have ruined the argument of illusion, or metamorphosis. |
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AirCooledMan_2006
 Posts: 594 Location: Delaware, U.S. |
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I'd say it's probably an illusion, or they're instant shapeshifters able to switch between wolf and human forms at will at the drop of a hat.
Which may also explain why we see Tsume using a knife from time to time--He wouldn't be able to use it normally with just his jaws. Hands are necessary. |
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