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NEWS: B: The Beginning Wins Jury Prize at Bucheon Int'l Animation Film Fest

I knew not listening to negative opinions of this show would pay off somehow.

Eccentric middle-aged male genius (yawn) returns from semi-retirement to work on a case that he hopes will help him avenge his fridged wife/female relative (yawn), meets cute young woman who annoys him at first but her pluckiness eventually melts the ice around his heart (yawn). The central mystery is related to superpowered kids (yawn) who escaped from a Secret Government Institution (yawn) where their powers were developed for Evil Government Purposes (yawn). The bad guys are a bunch of evil superpowered weirdos (yawn) in service of a main boss whose identity is probably supposed to be a secret but is so damn obvious from the character design and the character's position that they might as well have owned up to it from the first episode. Oh yes, and the main superpowered kid character is obsessively trying to protect a cute girl that is his childhood sweetheart (yawn).

I wasn't a big fan of the show but cliche doesn't necessarily mean bad.

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Eccentric middle-aged male genius (yawn) returns from semi-retirement to work on a case that he hopes will help him avenge his fridged wife/female relative (yawn), meets cute young woman who annoys him at first but her pluckiness eventually melts the ice around his heart (yawn). The central mystery is related to superpowered kids (yawn) who escaped from a Secret Government Institution (yawn) where their powers were developed for Evil Government Purposes (yawn). The bad guys are a bunch of evil superpowered weirdos (yawn) in service of a main boss whose identity is probably supposed to be a secret but is so damn obvious from the character design and the character's position that they might as well have owned up to it from the first episode. Oh yes, and the main superpowered kid character is obsessively trying to protect a cute girl that is his childhood sweetheart (yawn).

Also cute young woman and cute girl are supposed to be Strong Female Characters(TM) except they both end up as the most damn classic damsels in distress, being menaced by their respective villains and having to be rescued by their respective love interests... and one just happens to be also naked during all this. What originality, what quality. Ending has some Shocking Twists that make zero sense whatsoever and are not elaborated on because the writers know that's for the better.

Takkun4343 wrote:

I knew not listening to negative opinions of this show would pay off somehow.

...what, were you the judge or something?

The show is kind of offensively derivative and clichéd, but it looks and sounds beautiful (some pieces of its animation and sceneries are breathtaking), so it's easy to see how someone who doesn't watch much anime would be impressed by it. That doesn't make the pointless and clichéd story or the two-dimensional and clichéd characters any better. Seriously, the entire setup is:

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Eccentric middle-aged male genius (yawn) returns from semi-retirement to work on a case that he hopes will help him avenge his fridged wife/female relative (yawn), meets cute young woman who annoys him at first but her pluckiness eventually melts the ice around his heart (yawn). The central mystery is related to superpowered kids (yawn) who escaped from a Secret Government Institution (yawn) where their powers were developed for Evil Government Purposes (yawn). The bad guys are a bunch of evil superpowered weirdos (yawn) in service of a main boss whose identity is probably supposed to be a secret but is so damn obvious from the character design and the character's position that they might as well have owned up to it from the first episode. Oh yes, and the main superpowered kid character is obsessively trying to protect a cute girl that is his childhood sweetheart (yawn).

Also cute young woman and cute girl are supposed to be Strong Female Characters(TM) except they both end up as the most damn classic damsels in distress, being menaced by their respective villains and having to be rescued by their respective love interests... and one just happens to be also naked during all this. What originality, what quality. Ending has some Shocking Twists that make zero sense whatsoever and are not elaborated on because the writers know that's for the better.

Who are you quoting there? As someone who watched the entire series and disliked it I still have a hard time taking the criticism there seriously, mainly due to all the yawning and how pretentious it sounds. The yawning comes across as arrogant and snidely confident, which isn't a good look for someone that wants to be taken seriously in a critical discussion.

However there are other yawn points where the person just sounds like they hate fun.

You're right but isn't a cliche based on one's own opinion not hard facts.

Takkun4343 wrote:

I knew not listening to negative opinions of this show would pay off somehow.

...what, were you the judge or something?

Perhaps the idea of "fun" is not universal and different people find different things fun to different degrees.

SHD wrote:

Perhaps the idea of "fun" is not universal and different people find different things fun to different degrees.

But apparenty the same doesn't apply to personal taste judging media. The fact that people enjoyed the show and think it's good is irrelevant, you not enjoying it automatically makes it bad and everyone else has shit taste, only your opinion matters. Jesus Chris.