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Kougeru
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Based on other platforms, I feel the need to add this:
You will not get money back from Nintendo even if they win. Nintendo did not raise prices due to tariffs. Nintendo ate the tariff costs. That's why they're rightfully suing. |
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Hi-Chan
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Sic 'em Nintendo. But it 's likely the orange one has stolen the money..
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FireballDragon
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You've made some shady choices recently, Nintendo. It's high time you do something right. Sue their sorry asses!
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Greed1914
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I think it gets more complicated than that, and depends on the product. The Switch 2 kept its announced price, so for that product, Nintendo would have paid for it. However, the Switch 1 saw a price increase, as did various accessories, such as controllers. Presumably, that was due to tariffs, but companies also avoided coming right out and saying it, instead saying price increases were due to "economic circumstances." They may not have said it out loud for fear of some sort of retaliation from Trump, but they were no doubt keeping track of it just in case they could recover it later. On that note, if the increases prices were the result of passing the costs to customers, now the question is who deserves the refund at the end. Sticking with the Nintendo example: Nintendo took the hit on Switch 2s. The added tariff to import them would go to Nintendo. Switch 1s went up in price and Nintendo would have initially paid the tariff there, but recovered it on the sale. Maybe Nintendo is entitled to recover the tariffs for units imported but not yet sold? We have some estimates out there that the tariffs added an additional cost of $1,000 to $2,000 per person. I doubt everyone kept track of that, especially when there is no tariff cost on the customer receipt. Add in cash purchases that stores would have no way of tracking down, and it gets pretty hard for a retailer to notify a customer of what they could get back, if anything. So I do agree with commentary that refunding customers would be "complicated." What I expect will happen is that we'll end up with companies getting the tariffs back, but passing any of it to customers will be "too complicated" or they'll say that the price increases weren't actually from the tariffs, and the customers will see nothing. Not saying this isn't worth doing. The administration had this coming, but it won't make much difference to the end purchasers who bore it in the end. |
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AiddonValentine
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Nintendo getting ahead of everyone else like Costco by activating the ninjas. When they want that money back they will get that money back.
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ZelosZoidberg
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Even though I will not see a dime from the refund for my Switch 2 Pro controller and Gamecube controller, the enemy of my enemy is my friend. Go Nintendo!
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MischievousMelody
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This is one Nintendo lawsuit that I can get behind. (Speaking as an American here!)
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Kiwi93
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Honestly same, never thought I’d be rooting for Nintendo’s lawyers to win lol. |
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FishLion
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I don't think how much they changed prices changes the suit at all. Tariffs are paid when products are imported, so when Nintendo ships systems to retailers either the retailer or Nintendo has to pay extra fees based on the whole sale price and apparently Nintendo was the one to pay them. Whether or not they change an item's MSRP to cover the costs it doesn't change the tariffs that are collected at import from Nintendo. The suit is specifically for the fees the company itself paid, to my knowledge they aren't citing the consumer profit lost or unit numbers or any of that, they are just saying that we were charged this much and want it back. As long as a tariff charge wasn't added to an itemized receipt the way some places like Temu did, I am fairly sure that a court will consider Nintendo as the one who suffered damages and not their customers who paid an MSRP with no separate charge for duties. I don't get why people are so angry about that though. Unless a business tricked me into paying higher prices (such as dynamic pricing that purposefully charges more by reading your internet history) it's a price you agreed to pay. A business being bullied into paying extra unnecessary fees by an antagonistic and illegal law deserves that money back. It would be nice if the Switch 1 and accessories went down in price now, but with everything inflating and AI skyrocketing electronic prices in general I doubt they can afford to it without tariffs anyway. So it does suck that tariffs are the clearly straw that broke the camel's back price increase wise, but I don't see that holding up as evidence of damages to consumers or affecting the suit at all. |
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Cypher997
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I think Nintendo's lawyers are going to put the first of many black eye's on the tangerine's illegal tariffs, right alongside other companies that are chomping at the bit to do the same (speaking as a ticked off American that did not vote for the tangerine).
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scowler
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A lot of pointless litigation. The US Administration lost at the Supreme Court, so they should just have an orderly refund process set up already. The outcome of all this is clear as day, so what do they gain by forcing people to file more lawsuits and merely delaying? (Particularly since companies want to be paid interest as well) The only winners here are the lawyers, and taxpayers end up being the losers.
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Cypher997
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You should realize that the tangerine's administration (2016-2020, 2024-current) is loathe to part with any ill gotten gains (money gained via illegal tariffs in this case), they intend to run the clock out and make the parties that file said lawsuits exhaust all their cash reserves, forcing them to settle for far less than what they deserve. It's the MO (modus operandi) of the tangerine since his days as a failed businessman. |
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AiddonValentine
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Thing is Trump has also been losing in court badly and frequently. The administration also doesn't have enough lawyers in anything, so they're spread thin and what lawyers they do have tend to be toadies who are bad lawyers. They might be able to delay, but companies like Costco, Nintendo and the other HUNDRED of companies suing are getting that money. it's also hilarious how Nintendo is currently the only video game company and the only platform holder to sue considering 1) Sony and MS have various government contracts and 2) their fans don't tend to be the type to like the Trump administration.
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ZiharkXVI
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Every company who has done business is suing for a piece of the potential settlement. When this gets sorted out years in the future, companies needed to preserve their request or else get nothing. This isnt the scenario many of you are imagining where Nintendo is fighting the Trump admin in some poltical battle. This is just getting your claim in timely.
I also agree with whomever said you won't see a dime of this. And btw, game/console prices arent coming down either. Those were moves the industry wanted years before tariffs were a thing. Its a corporation - they want to increase profits. Thats it. There is a potential payout here and Nintendo isnt going to say we arent interested. |
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Purple Tentacle
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People need to decide if the Switch 2 is 450 and has 80 dollar games because of the tariffs or not because this article states (on Nintendo's own words) that it's not due to tariffs. It only suggests some accessories saw an increase in price. Logically, they have no leg to stand on because tariffs are passed to the consumer. Nintendo didn't pay anything, you guys did. And as you say even if they win (they wont) you're not seeing a dime and this is all being pocketed by Nintendo. It's just Nintendo (and other companies) looking for an easy payout; possibly a settlement just to make the whole thing go away. Personally, I hope Trump gets they ass and takes Nintendo to the cleaners to make an example out of them. |
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