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EricJ2



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PostPosted: Thu Oct 09, 2014 5:11 pm Reply with quote
brankoburcksen wrote:
Can we please get a sketch about this on The Daily Show and The Colbert Report. Pretty please, with sugar on top.


No, no chance of the Daily Show--Not unless the reporter started talking about gay marriage as well.
I used to use that to keep up with the headlines, but now it's turned into personal editorial Stewart rants about what hypocritical statements Fox News is making this week (either gay marriage or the vets' hospitals, until the whole Isis crisis blew up)... Crying or Very sad
To be honest, I haven't kept up with the headlines in two months, now that my browser doesn't go to the launch page anymore. We never got another classic Stewart bit after Gov. Christie's Bridgegate.

As for the article, the journalist was trying to find some really grown-up reason to call cosplayers "asexual nerds living in their parents' basements". Ah, it's because of the ECONOMY, you see. Rolling Eyes

Let's just accept the fact that no conservative, let alone at the AEI, has ever seen Doctor Who or anime in his life.
I don't have much respect for New Doctor fans, but I can at least scrape up some for those who know what the heck it is.


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meruru



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PostPosted: Thu Oct 09, 2014 5:21 pm Reply with quote
Ohmigawd am I ever sick of the older generation blaming young people's financial status on laziness! This economy is still really rough on those without experience. *Also* let me point out that cosplay can cost you hundreds or even thousands of dollars for a single costume. Not exactly a good hobby for unemployed people avoiding looking for jobs.
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cloud8100



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PostPosted: Thu Oct 09, 2014 5:27 pm Reply with quote
All I can say is that that journalist guy is a moron Mad

-_- jeez louise.
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SupraZ



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PostPosted: Thu Oct 09, 2014 5:27 pm Reply with quote
You sound like my parents Mr. Journalist. Guess what, there are many ways to spend and earn money without diapers. Rolling Eyes
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SheRrIs





PostPosted: Thu Oct 09, 2014 5:35 pm Reply with quote
Literally the stupidest thing I read today. Seriously I laughed at first, but then felt sad on the inside that the author's line of reasoning was just 'because that's my speculation', with no thought given to causality or differences between the norms and functioning of the two societies. To me, more cosplay can only be treated as a symptom of people having free time at all, but guess what? Before cosplay became popular the very same people might have had other hobbies.

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Lavnovice9



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PostPosted: Thu Oct 09, 2014 5:38 pm Reply with quote
infamoustakai wrote:
"unmarried and childless."

And what's wrong with that? Both are utter nightmares.


Considering our overpopulation and welfare sponge problem, you'd think people would encourage having less kids.

But having a wife and 2.4 kids and a white picket fence is the "American dream" and if you can insult someone with it by saying they'll never achieve it, you bet we'll use it as ammo.
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Hoppy800



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PostPosted: Thu Oct 09, 2014 5:38 pm Reply with quote
This journalist has lost all credibility and needs to be on medication. Even the people who care about social justice have some sort of point about their claims unlike this so called "journalist". Also, what's wrong with being unmarried and childless? My aunts are well in their 50's and had no husband and are living quite well.
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Veniamin



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PostPosted: Thu Oct 09, 2014 5:40 pm Reply with quote
"When you're disillusioned with the reality of your early adult life"
"instead of facing the sordid facts"

What does that even mean? I've cosplayed my entire life since Comiket 92' and there was a worse economic situation before that. It made the 2006 one look like a playground.

Why do misinformed "journalists" imply that being an adult equates to abandoning what you love to become miserable?


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Ryujin99



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PostPosted: Thu Oct 09, 2014 5:42 pm Reply with quote
Please tell me the man's joking. The conclusions he makes from the presented data are completely irrational.

All he's doing is proposing a straw man to distract people from the real reasons the economy has been and, in some sectors, continues to struggle. Japan's stagnant economy has absolutely nothing to do with cosplay or any other hobbies.

The economy in Japan is troubled by the lack of children being born partially due to the poor economy (therefore somewhat cyclic), a dearth of immigration to bring in people to offset the population decline, and a refusal by many of the Japanese people to spend their hard-earned money on anything (and in that respect, otaku are probably doing more for the economy than the average salaryman).
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 09, 2014 5:46 pm Reply with quote
Veniamin wrote:
Why do misinformed "journalists" imply that being an adult equates to abandoning what you love to become a miserable adult?


They themselves are not quite content with their own lives, so they want to spoil it (subconsciously) for young people who enter adulthood using the propaganda of the so-called 'social norms and expectations'. Ugh.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 09, 2014 5:47 pm Reply with quote
Sarukah wrote:
This just seems completely misguided to me, as cosplaying takes either frickloads of money, frickloads of hard work, or both. Heck, the only reason I only just recently was able to start cosplaying was because I had a job that allowed me to spend that kind of money.
I get what the article was trying to say that harsh reality leads to people finding fun things to do instead (hasn't it always been that way though?), but I don't understand how hard work/spending money equals jobless/unmarried/childless. How stupid.

It's just his own cultural bias showing. You make a cogent economic point that I can't believe someone like him ignores. And getting married and having kids when you are well off for yourself, but are still not adequately wealthy enough is about the worst thing you can do at a young age.

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Reason TV ventured to Comic-Con International in San Diego to check out the booming culture of cosplay, in which people dress up as their favorite superheroes, literary figures, or fantasy icons. Why do cosplayers dedicate so much time, money, and energy to their alter egos? It's fun, they say, and it's a powerful form of self-expression.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 09, 2014 5:50 pm Reply with quote
EricJ2 wrote:
Let's just accept the fact that no conservative, let alone at the AEI, has ever seen Doctor Who or anime in his life.
I don't have much respect for New Doctor fans, but I can at least scrape up some for those who know what the heck it is.


Eric, that's a big brush you are using there. There's at least one person with a fiscal conservative philosophy that is intimately acquainted with Anime, Manga, Dr. Who, Star Trek, Star Wars and some things you've probably never heard of ... Me.

So be careful how much you sling that thing around. Ok?

Mark Gosdin
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Veniamin



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PostPosted: Thu Oct 09, 2014 5:52 pm Reply with quote
Sherris wrote:
Veniamin wrote:
Why do misinformed "journalists" imply that being an adult equates to abandoning what you love to become a miserable adult?


They themselves are not quite content with their own lives, so they want to spoil it (subconsciously) for young people who enter adulthood using the propaganda of the so-called 'social norms and expectations'. Ugh.


You know, I get that they want for me to be responsible, I was raised that way from the start. but I'm not giving up what I love no matter how bad the economy gets. Judgement in this day and age is like a stealth psychological warfare prone to assimilating people in a dull life by tearing away everything that makes them happy. The Economy's problem is not us, it's the broken adults of the past who forgot what happiness felt like.
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TarsTarkas



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PostPosted: Thu Oct 09, 2014 6:44 pm Reply with quote
First it was Rock n Roll.

Then it was Dungeon and Dragons.

Now it is Cosplay.

(I am sure I have skipped a few other 'Doom of Society' activities)
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EricJ2



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PostPosted: Thu Oct 09, 2014 6:46 pm Reply with quote
TarsTarkas wrote:
First it was Rock n Roll.

Then it was Dungeon and Dragons.

Now it is Cosplay.

(I am sure I have skipped a few other 'Doom of Society' activities)


Yeah, you skipped over Mortal Kombat and Pokemon.
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