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KnightAR



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PostPosted: Wed Jun 17, 2009 1:21 am Reply with quote
I had no doubt that the RIAA and MPAA was behind it ....
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Mohawk52



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PostPosted: Wed Jun 17, 2009 1:29 am Reply with quote
Took them long enough. Rolling Eyes

Virgin Media in the UK have started a similar action already.


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CCSYueh



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PostPosted: Wed Jun 17, 2009 1:35 am Reply with quote
KnightAR wrote:
I had no doubt that the RIAA and MPAA was behind it ....

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With the backing of the Japanese Society for Rights of Authors, Composers and Publishers (JASRAC), the Japanese government's Agency for Cultural Affairs has been pushing for such an amendment for at least two years. JASRAC is an umbrella group of 24 companies and associations such as the Motion Picture Producers Association of Japan, the National Association of Commercial Broadcasters in Japan, and the Recording Industry Association of Japan.


I'd say the artists/producers/etc who slaved away on this stuff in Japan have been the ones pushing for this.
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ConanSan



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PostPosted: Wed Jun 17, 2009 2:49 am Reply with quote
KnightAR wrote:
I had no doubt that the RIAA and MPAA was behind it ....
It's too early in the day to be wearing the tinfoil hat.
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krownklown



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PostPosted: Wed Jun 17, 2009 2:53 am Reply with quote
^its funny though, you do realize unless you are a super successful artist in the range of Kishmoto and the like, the majority of the money made off of your works is distributed between the Japanese publishing company and the US distributors - i mean most manga artist and creators are not uber rich

so trust me the ones pushing for this the most are the companies, im not saying the artist are as well, but its not like the will ultimately make that much more
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AoiHonou



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PostPosted: Wed Jun 17, 2009 3:27 am Reply with quote
News that we hear like have the opposite effect, as always.
The tighter it gets, the more persistent these pirates go.

It's a matter of race between them and who will surrender in the end.
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Mohawk52



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PostPosted: Wed Jun 17, 2009 4:40 am Reply with quote
AoiHonou wrote:
News that we hear like have the opposite effect, as always.
The tighter it gets, the more persistent these pirates go.

It's a matter of race between them and who will surrender in the end.
But if their ISPs start blocking persistant offenders from the internet, how many ISPs does Japan have before offenders are essentually banned from all of them if they won't stop?
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nargun



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PostPosted: Wed Jun 17, 2009 5:08 am Reply with quote
krownklown wrote:
^its funny though, you do realize unless you are a super successful artist in the range of Kishmoto and the like, the majority of the money made off of your works is distributed between the Japanese publishing company and the US distributors - i mean most manga artist and creators are not uber rich


Neither are most japanese publishers. The nature of publishing -- high overheads amortised over average sales figures that are Pretty Low -- means it's never going to be a highly-profitable business.
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 17, 2009 6:09 am Reply with quote
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With the backing of the Japanese Society for Rights of Authors, Composers and Publishers (JASRAC)

Reason alone the law should not have been changed.

No matter. It's in Japan. If citizens don't mind the change, so be it.

Just goes to show why bliss can be found from ignorance.
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Mohawk52



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PostPosted: Wed Jun 17, 2009 6:28 am Reply with quote
PetrifiedJello wrote:
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With the backing of the Japanese Society for Rights of Authors, Composers and Publishers (JASRAC)

Reason alone the law should not have been changed.

No matter. It's in Japan. If citizens don't mind the change, so be it.

Just goes to show why bliss can be found from ignorance.
Bollocks. You're just being silly now.
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Shadowrun20XX



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PostPosted: Wed Jun 17, 2009 7:19 am Reply with quote
My,how American of them.

Search engines are illegal now? eh.Until they do away with say "Google",you can find anything,anywhere,anytime online.Depending on if you use it that way.

Scratch that,(I just read the other source for this article) search engines are illegal as of now,but won't be after this bill is passed.Brilliant.

Non-computer nerds telling computer nerds what to do.
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PetrifiedJello



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PostPosted: Wed Jun 17, 2009 7:32 am Reply with quote
Mohawk52 wrote:
Bollocks. You're just being silly now.

Sadly, I wish I were.

I know where you stand on this position, but that's why we can agree to disagree.
Smile

Luckily for us in the U.S., crap like this is challenged.

So I'm not the only silly one.
Razz
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Mohawk52



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PostPosted: Wed Jun 17, 2009 7:54 am Reply with quote
PetrifiedJello wrote:
Mohawk52 wrote:
Bollocks. You're just being silly now.

Sadly, I wish I were.

I know where you stand on this position, but that's why we can agree to disagree.
Smile

Luckily for us in the U.S., crap like this is challenged.

So I'm not the only silly one.
Razz
Like the US "wild wild west" of the 19th Century, that was like the internet is today, it was eventually tamed and regulated under the rule of law, and with this move, and others like it, we are witnessing the same thing happening with the internet. As challenging as that may be now, it has to be tamed if the internet is to be the "new way" of business success, and I don't mean for just anime. The times they are a changing. Wink
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PetrifiedJello



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PostPosted: Wed Jun 17, 2009 8:10 am Reply with quote
Mohawk52 wrote:
Like the US "wild wild west" of the 19th Century

Curse you, as you made me laugh out loud with this comparison, despite its inaccuracy.

For some reason, I pictured Doc Holliday downloading Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid from The Pirate Bay.
Very Happy

For the laws of order are not the same as the laws of civility.
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Mohawk52



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PostPosted: Wed Jun 17, 2009 8:19 am Reply with quote
PetrifiedJello wrote:
Mohawk52 wrote:
Like the US "wild wild west" of the 19th Century

Curse you, as you made me laugh out loud with this comparison, despite its inaccuracy.
Now you're in denial. Wink

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For some reason, I pictured Doc Holliday downloading Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid from The Pirate Bay.
Very Happy
Nice one. Laughing

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For the laws of order are not the same as the laws of civility.
Quite. Wink
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