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BodaciousSpacePirate
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Adults Empire is the first thing you should watch if you've only seen the "Adult Swim version" of Shin Chan, and want to understand why it's such a beloved hallmark of Japanese pop culture.

My favorite "other" anime movie is definitely either Adolescence (#8 on your list) or Soldiers of Sorrow* (#5)... unless you count watching all of Serial Experiments Lain in one sitting as a "movie".

*I still have my dubbed VHS box set, and to me, Bright Noah will always be a British version of X-Men's Cyclops.
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Horus - Prince of the Sun deserves it's ranking also nice to see that get put at the top and not a "safe" choice.
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 30, 2017 2:10 pm Reply with quote
Thank you for this list! The four instalments have really highlighted the gaps in our connoisseurship, though I like to think this is an excusable upshot of the industry's present limits.

I was most amused that Project A-Ko managed to reach this list's upper echelons, given that one would have expected more auteurial and eloquent works to dominate the highest ranks. Equally interesting was the limelight shone on some Isao Takahata works of which I haven't heard being discussed in fandom circles before. One suspects his Ghibli association has come to the detriment of his other films' legacies, a fate not shared by, say, Oshii's works outside of Production I.G.

A point of mild embarrassment is that two of the items in this list (Evangelion 2.22 and the Time of Eve film) reside unwatched on my shelf. Cinematic backlogs are harder to clear than they really have any right to.
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 30, 2017 3:19 pm Reply with quote
I'm a tad curious about entry 7. Why is Lupin in that shot with the DC superheroes? I'm clearly missing something here.
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 30, 2017 3:23 pm Reply with quote
I'm surprised Junkers Come Here did not make the list. I didn't expect to see it on Paste's list, but with all the old classics showing up on Mike's list I thought for sure it would make the cut. It's a great movie.
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MarshalBanana



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PostPosted: Sun Apr 30, 2017 3:27 pm Reply with quote
Run melos was also adapted in Aoi Bungaku.
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 30, 2017 4:07 pm Reply with quote
I really enjoyed Project A-ko and feel like more newer fans should give it a chance.

Also, if you wanna see a glimpse at that hentai past, there's a brief scene they dug out in the archives for use in the third film (Cinderella Rhapsody) Wink
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MarshalBanana



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PostPosted: Sun Apr 30, 2017 4:17 pm Reply with quote
CatSword wrote:
I really enjoyed Project A-ko and feel like more newer fans should give it a chance.:
The art style defiantly has a timeless look, so visually I could not see a problem new fans would have.
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 30, 2017 4:23 pm Reply with quote
As for Project A-Ko not being on Paste's list, this is one cause we need to stick up for:
Supposedly the original sources are now so lost/screwed-up we'll never get a better master than the last DVNR'ed-to-within-an-inch-of-its-life Special Edition DVD CPM released, and we should abandon all hope of Discotek restoring a Blu?
That's still no excuse not to show whatever DVD we've got to the next generation of fans--Unlike Twilight, this early VHS staple didn't deserve to be forgotten, and still shows off the full-tilt looney pop-ref 80's-otaku humor the writers and animators had brought over from the Urusei Yatsura TV series.
In the old days, we used to not show it to newbies because we warned them they wouldn't get the Macross, Harlock and Fist of the North Star references, but that was back when nobody had heard of anime. Think it's a little easier for new fans to get the joke that something specific's being parodied here. Surprised

Oh, and:
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Revolutionary Girl Utena is the most important anime of the 1990s.


(Genma-Panda holds up "Say what?" sign) "Bra-ho??"
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 30, 2017 4:26 pm Reply with quote
I remember watching project a-ko as a teen and had the thought throughout all the movies of "I feel like this was supposed to be porn but wasn't" so to find out it started out as a porn and got switched halfway through is of no surprise.

It was a fun movie and I really enjoyed it.
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 30, 2017 4:29 pm Reply with quote
I was actually a bit surprised that none of Miyazaki's big films made the list! I also wouldn't have minded seeing Macross: Do You Remember Love? here, either, but I do admit that I am quite biased since that film was the very first anime that I saw in its original language and the film that got me officially into anime.

Another interesting note about Farewell To Space Battleship Yamato is the fact that it was redone as the second series of Yamato, but without as high a body count.
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 30, 2017 4:31 pm Reply with quote
Surprised not to see Galaxy Express 999 (or is your rule literally to exclude the Paste list?), and I'd argue for Expelled From Paradise and Madoka Magica: Rebellion as well.

My personal top 100 list would also include Wake Up, Girls!: The Seven Idols and Love Live! The School Idol Movie, but I'm trash and would never advocate that anyone ever watch either of those.


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PostPosted: Sun Apr 30, 2017 4:37 pm Reply with quote
Since the list started I have now watched a few of these movies, I have hardly seen anything made before the 90s until now! Always good to broaden the palette.

Some omissions based upon my tastes, Dead Leaves, Mind Game, The Disappearance of Haruhi Suzumiya, Madoka Magika - Rebellion and Steins Gate -deja vu. Kind of surprised the latter is not on the list (but I am rather bias). Still not got to get round to watching your name, cannot help but think after all the hype it would be less than I expect.
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 30, 2017 4:53 pm Reply with quote
I ended up chuckling out loud when I got to the Project A-ko entry as I remember watching that on an obscure channel back in the mid-2000s and loving every moment of it, even if I was a bit confused at times. I really do appreciate the insight to its creation... really... Cream Lemon?!

I did happen to see your name in theaters and I was glad I did. As a long time Makoto Shinkai fan, I'm glad to see his perseverance paid off with the style of stories he wanted to tell for so long.

Overall, this 4-part series highlighted movies I know and love, but a large number I never heard of. When I saw Horus at number one, my jaw dropped has I never saw it coming. This 100 list has provided me with content I want to look for to watch and will definitely make a concerted effort to do so. Time of Eve and Horus were instant adds to my list of movies to watch. Thank you so much!
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 30, 2017 5:51 pm Reply with quote
I thought Project A-ko was quite possibly the most glaring omission from the Paste list so I was quite pleased to see it rank so highly here. I don't think there's anything wrong with having a straightfoward fun comedy film in the top tier as long as it's one of the greatest anime comedy films of all time.

I wouldn't say Project A-ko is my absolute favourite anime film overall but it may be my favourite standalone anime film not directly tied in to a series (not counting the Cream Lemon origin nor the later Project A-ko sequel OVAs) and, while Project A-ko isn't nearly as prominent a film as it was when I was new to anime, Project A-ko was quite a common "gateway drug" for those of us who came to be anime fans in the late-1980s or 1990s. While I had rented Akira a few year earlier, I was at least aware of Akira beforehand because of the Marvel Epic colourized release and, while I appreciate Akira on a cinematographic level, it didn't really have an enduring impact on me causing me to seek out other anime like it. Project A-ko was my first truly "blind" anime rental and is the film I credit with me becoming an anime fan in the first place.

I know full well that I probably wouldn't rank Project A-ko nearly so highly as an anime film if I hadn't seen it back in the day when anime was still quite an underground phenomena in North America and that's fine, but I did see Project A-ko back when the North America anime market was in its infancy (at least as a commercial entity) and I can't (and don't really feel a need to) divorce it from my own nostalgia for having found such a fresh and exciting thing in "Japanimation".
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