Forum - View topicNEWS: 18 Anime, Manga Companies Publish Joint Statement Criticizing Use of Generative AI With Sora2
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AiddonValentine
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They poked the bear, they suffer the consequences
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kgw
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Shueisha launched their own statement, not too different.
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Middo
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RIP SORA! I knew they used copyrighted material for training, but there must be huge corruption and money laundering going on at OpenAI
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mdo7
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Yeah, I knew this was going to happen. I don't used Sora2 nor will I use generative AI because of too much realism to the point of being a deepfake.
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Kougeru
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And people have already used Google Veoh and Sora to create very realistic fakes of people making completely false statements...and masses are believing the videos to be real. Trying not to get off topic but it's proof of how harmful these technologies are. There's no real-world benefit and they should be outright banned. For Sora specifically, on "X" there was clips being attacked by JP anime fans a few weeks ago. The clips were nearly 99% identical to "Your name." scenes. The music was the main thing that was obviously wrong. But the clips were so spot-on that it's impossible for OpenAI to claim that are not training on copyrighted material. You don't get that level of accuracy from prompts, keywords, or references - you need the actual real thing to copy from. It's disgusting. 20 ...no..even 15 years ago people were being sentenced to hundreds of thousands of dollars of pirating single songs. 3 minutes of music. People were threatened with up to $30,000 for pirating a single episode anime. And now big companies like Meta, google, X, and openai are getting away with the largest case of piracy ever... it's insane. |
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Saeryen
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Good for them!
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Cypher997
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This is going to get messy in the near future, that's all I can safely say. I am not a 'tech bro' nor 'Ai hater', I'm just observing the latest in the ongoing copyright fights that new tools often bring with them.
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AsleepBySunset
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Name one example of a new, non AI tool being accused of infringing copyright |
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Cypher997
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Remember when broadcasters and IP holders threw a fit when recordable VHS tapes were a thing? Same applied when disc burners and recordable discs were a thing in the late 90's to the 2000's. Same also applied when capture cards became a thing as well as screen recording software. Those are the new, non AI tools that were accused of infringing copyright that spring to my mind. |
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revolutionotaku
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Reminds me of the “NO MORE!” anti-piracy ads. https://youtu.be/nT7ijnOHEDs?si=Ru-nSCUFdmN6rbcI |
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samuelp
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Apple's TTS function for ibooks.... Google Book's indexing of books for search... The literal printing press itself! Come on, there's a lot of hills to die on in this argument but not this. |
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Cheap Trick
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I made some AI photos/videos with non-commercially available or widespread personal photos that I seriously doubt any of these companies have trained on unless they scrubbed private Instagram accounts (in which case there's no point fighting them if we're at that stage lol) and they came out pretty spot-on and indistinguishable from just one photo alone. I can believe a reference is all they need to recreate stuff pretty convincingly. |
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King Chicken
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Are there consequences? This just sounds like a weak complaint in writing with no actual threat or anything. |
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ANN_Lynzee
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I hope by 'personal' you mean that you personally took part in their creation or they are of yourself. |
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FishLion
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I mean the printing press isn't exactly new. TTS and Google Book indexing have major purposes unrelated to copyright theft. Hell even the printing press enabled as many books to be published as it did steal. AI is a tool that has many uses, but every use is built on high speed theft of material to create a replacement material. I'm not going to say that other tools aren't used to circumvent copyright or pose questions that are hard to answer, for examples samples used in songs have lead to complicated questions of creative ownership before, but AI is clearly of a scale and type of theft that has no equivalent in any modern technology. I don't think the original poster was wrong to say that it's interesting to see how this goes, but I do think that it's hard to compare this to any historical case of copyright infringement both because of scale and the fact the tech is tailor made to eat other data and create replacement data. |
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