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Blanchimont
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Intensify!? More like monopoly intensifies, as the other article on unpaid labor accusations exhibits.. |
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Greed1914
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Yeah, it seems like a lot of the news about the webtoon market is services closing as the big ones get bigger. |
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sarusa
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Manwha is 99% AI generated these days - and they brag about it, and say they don't want to work with you if you're not using AI because you're not churning garbage out fast enough, number of chapters is all that matters. Hard to keep up with all the slop if you're not one of the giant firms.
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mdo7
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Hm, that's quite a blanket statement you made there, you have any proof? Because some (if not most) of the webtoon artists are against AI. Somebody in the manga world might be using AI to do art too, are you going to put manga on the same standard as manhwa when it comes to mangaka using AI? |
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sarusa
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Sure, you can find tons of articles about it even on this site. Korea is gung ho on this (except some holdouts who can actually write/draw) as their way to dominate the world comic industry. Remember, you don't see most of it, I don't see most of it, most of it never gets translated (nor should it). There are literally thousands of new chapters a week. Stuff we see like Greatest Estate Developer (역대급 영지 설계사) are the exceptions. In the ones we do see, there are plenty using it for coloring. It's a pretty obvious look where the entire thing looks like screenshots from a video game. So some URLs, just a quick search showed up way too many to even politely paste here. animenewsnetwork.com/news/2025-07-11/gyeonggi-province-in-korea-launches-ai-content-awards-with-new-webtoon-category/.226216 https://koreajoongangdaily.joins.com/news/2025-03-06/culture/features/Creators-dream-or-legal-nightmare-AI-revolution-changes-the-game-in-Koreas-webtoon-industry/2254839 https://koreajoongangdaily.joins.com/news/2025-03-06/business/tech/Naver-Webtoon-ready-to-fully-incorporate-AI-into-company-department-lead-says/2255011 https://us.aving.net/news/articleView.html?idxno=52046 Even famous artists who can actually draw are having AI trained on their art to churn out more comics in their style forever! https://www.bfmtv.com/tech/intelligence-artificielle/comment-l-ia-generative-transforme-l-industrie-des-webcomics-en-coree-du-sud_AD-202504250053.html (in French) One article I'm missing, that I really wish I could find, is one from here (I thought?) this year about a new Korean publisher that outright said if you're not using AI we don't want to work with you because you can't crank out new chapters fast enough and success is based on the number of chapters spammed. On the Japanese side, I'm not sure if they have any AI drawn / written manga published by a major publisher, but there is AI image gallery slop all over Pixiv. And Viz/Jump's parent company uses MTL to auto-translate manga into other languages - every week I see new MTL errors in new Viz/Jump/Manga Plus chapters, wrong pronouns are really common. They're not even bothering to proofread. For instance, if you see 'Studio Mikan' or no translator/typesetter credited, that's prooobably MTL. But in general Japan seems to want to keep that 'artisinal product' appearance up. I've got more, but will stop, that's enough spam. |
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mdo7
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You mean something like this: CESA Report: Half of Japanese Game Studios Use AI in Development New NHK Video Report Shows Generative AI Use in Anime/Manga Industries If you're that worried about manhwa/webtoons using AI, then you should be showing the same concern for anime and manga too, because generative AI is also being used in there too. So you're going to have to put anime/manga on the same level as manhwa/webtoons. |
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sarusa
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Yep, it's all bad. Just nowhere near at the same level it's being used in Korean webtoons/manwha. YET. K&K is a tiny player working on obvious crap (like Shikizakura), but it's concerning that NHK seems fine with it. And I have no doubt the big guys (like Shueisha) would go all in once they thought they could get the same quality for 1/10th the price and time, though they're not obviously pushing it yet or bragging about using it. But I am definitely worried that the [poop] will inevitably flow downhill. Games are another matter entirely, yep, being used to generate content everywhere. I'm sure that's at the same level. |
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Amuro1X
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Manwha was always slop, so this tracks. |
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mdo7
Posts: 8229 Location: Katy, Texas, USA |
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That's not stopping Japanese animation adaptation of it. We're getting a bit off topic by the way. |
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