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Cypher997
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The questions for people that are eyeing getting the new PC port of the original Final Fantasy VII is 'will there be gameplay and soundtrack issues with it?' As you know, the 2013 PC port of the original Final Fantasy VII has a well known list of issues that the modding community had to fix after it was released due to the low effort that SquareEnix put into the PC port. Then there's the whole 'de-listing' issue that has come up, similar to what happened with Sega's recent updates of the 'Yakuza' games, and souring quite a number of customers as well as fans of the series. Sadly, I am neither a developer nor am I a lawyer in both those instances as they would have a better way of getting into the technical details and legal reasons respectively.
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Handyman 68
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"improved gameplay experience" will probably just be the usual addition of those built-in cheats they put in other modern releases of games like disabling encounters or infinite EXP/Gil. Worse-case scenario they try change a bunch of stuff to try to make it match the Remake for synergy but I doubt they'd put that much effort into it.
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Zendervai
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Chances are it's a couple of specific things.
1) Fix the audio and graphic glitches, the stuff the fans modded with the previous version. 2) Make it more compatible with modern computers. 3) Possibly fix up the translation a bit. It's definitely 1 and 2, it might be 3. And they're almost certainly not going to make any extensive changes because that'd be a weird and pointless and difficult thing to do. The other versions of it on modern consoles have those cheats already too. |
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Zoltan Kakler
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Delisting games is always lame but FF7 is easily emulateable and not in any danger of falling into lost media territory. Although with the amount of mods that exist for this version already that can fix any potential issue people have in addition to better HD upscales and texture packs I wonder if it's even worth it for people to buy it yet again.
Hopefully there's no censorship or story changes like with SEGA's trend of these games with Sonic and Yakiuza |
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Cypher997
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If anything, it's going to make modding the newer version interesting to say the least as mods that worked on the 2013 version won't exactly be 'plug and play' with said newer version. |
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SaitoHajime101
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This is dependent on how much of the original source code they have. The 2013 release was just a re-release of the original PC port, which had notorious downgrades from the PS1 release.
Either way, the community for the 2013 release is generally more concerned about the mods and compatibility. We'll see how this goes. |
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Nionel
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It's probably safe to assume the new version will be a port of the version that's on modern consoles. Since saves aren't compatible, I'd guess mods aren't going to be either. Let's see when or if Square gives us any additional information.
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SaiyanHeretic
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Giving it for free to people who already own the 2013 release is a good sign. Bug fixes and some additional QOL will be welcome. I'm happy for the excuse to play it again.
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BadNewsBlues
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What censorship has Sega made with Sonic in the last 15 years? |
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Lizuka
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The 2013 release is presently only $4 on Steam so if you're curious about the mod scene now would probably be a good time to get it, especially since you get the new one for free for having it anyway.
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ChibiGoku
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With Yakuza, I'm assuming they're complaining about the fact that Yakuza removed and fixed homophobic and transphobic elements present in Yakuza 3 remasters onwards (including removing the game's usage of Okama in the Japanese audio scripts, though curiously was left in the English scripts). Because, apparently the creator's realizing they had transphobic and homophobic shit in their games and wanted to fix that is a bad thing likely according to the OP. As for Sonic, it's likely in regards to Rouge's breast reduction in later games and toning it down in the remaster of Sonic Generations. While I do think, personally, that this is an over-correction on Sega's part, at the same time, Sonic has historically dealt with heavy themes and concepts that sometimes may be difficult for it's younger demographic at times and never talked down to their audience. This is a really big thing to consider when talking about Sonic as a whole. The only time Sonic was truly ever dealing with censorship was when Sonic X was adapted by 4Kids Entertainment (which they, after 5 years of holding the rights, released the subtitled version on Hulu and Youtube, and later Discotek did a Blu-ray release, which I was involved with), as well as toning down Shadow the Hedgehog for the final release to go for the E10+ rating, as opposed to the Teen rating the game originally targeted. |
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MelodyShaper
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The Sonic Generations remaster for the Shadow/movie tie in stuff changed most if not all of the dialog and as a result a lot of things like references to death, sex, flirting, and some slapstick humor like Amy punching Knuckles into a tree, Sonic holding Amy back from trying to hug him, and Knuckles calling Classic Sonic fat were removed. They might have changed Rouge's design too I don't remember since I never bothered playing it and only watching videos of the changes since they were dumb. Probably The main issue is they delisted the original so unless you already own it you can't play it (legally) which is generally the problem with these kinds of situations.
Well this is obviously false given what I just said above but then I'm not surprised someone involved with Discotek releases would go to bat for censorship and try to downplay it given their releases are guilty of the same thing. I'll stick with the original versions myself. |
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Zendervai
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I know I'm probably going to regret this but like...when has Discotek ever engaged in censorship on their own terms? Because, to be blunt, doing a release of something where the only material they're given is censored is not really their fault? There's a few things they've released that are technically censored, but it's never on Discotek's end and if they didn't agree to to using the given masters, it'd never get released at all. And much of the time, it's not actually possible to uncensor the thing. Like, what, were they supposed to dig up the original VHS of Gunbuster and add in the like, 10 frames that were cut from all versions following it on orders of the Japanese rights holder? That seems like a lot of work for no real benefit, especially because the licensor would blow a gasket and probably would refuse to let anyone license it again for ages. The only other thing I can think of is that there's an optional dub of Castle of Cagliostro that removes the swearing from the Manga UK dub, but the original dub is still there and it's mostly just...to allow it to be more in line with other Miyazaki movie dubs. Plus Manga UK added the swearing, it's not there in Japanese. |
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Nionel
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This is only an issue if you're in PC or a digital only console. As an Xbox Series X owner I can just pop the 360 game disc into my system and play the original anytime I want. |
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Zoltan Kakler
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You are legitimately the first person I've seen defend the changes made to the Yakuza remakes/remasters. Pretty much everyone I know tore 0 Director's Cut story changes to shreds and called it lame and now it looks like they're doing the same with Kiwami 3 Dark Ties. True, the Remasters of 3 and 4 were also censored and had changes (which are still censorship even if you agree with them for some reason) but given the first week sales between the original games and their remasters the data show that the overwhelming majority of the Ryu ga Gotoku fandom did not bother with them. Yakuza 3 - 372,000 Yakuza 4 - 383,972 Yakuza 3 Remastered - 26,047 Yakuza 4 Remastered - 18,440 It seems safe to say the majority of the fandom prefers the original versions over the remasters. If you do like the remaster versions of those games more then alright. You can enjoy them for the rest of us while the rest of us stick with the originals. But I guess even the remasters are outdated at this point with Dark Ties coming out and replacing 3 Remaster now. I'm sure they'll do a Kiwami 4, 5, and 6, at some point too but I'll be skipping out on those as well.
I don't consider what you're describing as censorship personally. I consider something censorship if it's something that already exists and is being altered and presented as the original. The changes made to Sonic x Shadow Generations was censorship. The edits to the Sonic X dub that you mentioned were censorship. Any other games that were altered during the process of bringing them over to America from Japan or between re-releases are also censorship. Rouge getting new outfits or Amy having that tarot card gimmick forced onto her in newer games isn't really censorship just lame design choices.
I own the original Sonic Generations on Steam and I can still download and play it just fine so in that case even digital owners have access to it if they already have it. The main benefit of physical media is there's no cut-off point and you have the option to still buy it right now if you don't already own it via a used copy on the second hand market. |
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