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NEWS: Chainsaw Man Manga Enters 'Final Stage'


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Engineering Nerd



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PostPosted: Sun Nov 01, 2020 10:19 am Reply with quote
I do wonder can we still get an (much warranted) anime adaptation? I really wish more people can start reading this surreal and extraordinary shonen title!
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tintor2



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PostPosted: Sun Nov 01, 2020 10:33 am Reply with quote
Engineering Nerd wrote:
I do wonder can we still get an (much warranted) anime adaptation? I really wish more people can start reading this surreal and extraordinary shonen title!


It's fun but I wouldn't say that. It kinda reminds me to the early Gantz but with comedy.
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WANNFH



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PostPosted: Sun Nov 01, 2020 10:37 am Reply with quote
Engineering Nerd wrote:
I do wonder can we still get an (much warranted) anime adaptation? I really wish more people can start reading this surreal and extraordinary shonen title!
It's a given, probably. I don't even know what currently deserve anime from WSJ titles anymore (especially after Act-age disaster) — they really having a hard time on getting another hit outside of already ended serializations like Kimetsu or Promised Neverland, and after Chainsaw Man end, from the series that started in less than 5 years and can be considered a hit, will remain only Dr. Stone and JJK, which got their own series already.
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R.Obliv



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PostPosted: Sun Nov 01, 2020 11:54 am Reply with quote
Engineering Nerd wrote:
I do wonder can we still get an (much warranted) anime adaptation? I really wish more people can start reading this surreal and extraordinary shonen title!


It would be cool to see the series animated, but also this could easily turn into a monkey's paw situation. There's so many things that could go wrong to be honest.

If the manga gets a 2 cour season (which recent shounen such as JJK and demon slayer have had) the production company may end up trying to adapt the entire series, assuming they wouldn't get another chance (completed manga rarely get additional seasons). At the moment, there are 91 chapters currently syndicated. A series such as MHA on average adapts between 2 and 3 chapters per episode, although this can vary from arc to arc. In 24/25 episodes Chainsaw man would likely need to adapt something closer to 4 chapters per episode to fit everything if the manga ends soon. It would mean CSM would require a highly compressed adaptation. This has effected the anime adaptations of completed manga such as Tokyo Ghoul in the past (regardless of one's opinion of the manga or the adaption, big changes were needed to fit the plot within 24 episodes).

Adaptation is not a mathematical equation. Some series adapt a bunch of chapters per episode and look phenomenal, others can't handle that compression. Different series have different needs. Part of what works so well about CSM is the panel distribution. The manga often uses decompression, allowing for dialogue light chapters that are used to drive up the atmosphere (look at how many times pages with little to no dialogue appear but the intent of the page is still obvious - everything related to the door in Ch 77 stands out to me personally). On the one hand, this means that compared to other Shounen Jump manga more chapters can probably be adapted into a single episode, on the other you could imagine the decompressed moments coming across too quick, causing the atmosphere to be lost. spoiler[For example, the Gun Devil segment largely is told through two page spreads of destruction as the devil moves through Japan. A rushed adaptation may try to cram this into 5 minutes of run time before the OP so they can fit the resultant scenes with Aki within the same episode.] It could end up undermining what works so well about the manga.

There are also considerations r.e. the budget. The series could easily be an advertising nightmare in contrast to other Shounen Jump manga due to the abundance of graphic violence and sexual content (Power's reward for saving Meowy and Quanxi's introduction for example), either necessitating censorship or a later airtime. Censoring too much would cause some of the edge to be lost, which is important for the atmosphere of the story and helps the dark comedy stand out; but conversely moving to a later timeslot may result in it getting a reduced budget vs series such as MHA or JJK.

Basically, I would love a good animated adaptation of CSM... but it could go either way.
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JonDoe



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PostPosted: Sun Nov 01, 2020 12:43 pm Reply with quote
I don't know what you guys are worrying about it's a WSJ manga of course it's getting an anime adaptation eventually. And gratuitous violence and sexual content didn't stop Goblin Slayer from becoming a sensation.
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Abraham Omosun



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PostPosted: Sun Nov 01, 2020 12:44 pm Reply with quote
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; but conversely moving to a later timeslot may result in it getting a reduced budget vs series such as MHA or JJK.


Jujutsu Kaisen is a late night anime (airs Saturdays by 1.25am) as well as Kimetsu and I don't think any of them got a reduced budget that is even if we knew the budgets of these shows (unless you have such info). Anyway, apotential chainsaw man anime could be a streaming exclusive since those seem to get away with anything.
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Wyvern



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PostPosted: Sun Nov 01, 2020 12:49 pm Reply with quote
It's nearing the end already? Its popularity just seems to have begun to take off.

A lot of shorter Jump series these days. Demon Slayer was their biggest hit to launch in the past decade and it only lasted four years, which is brief by popular shonen standards. Maybe SJ is starting to see the long-term value in having shorter popular series; easier for people to collect all the Tankobon, even if they get into it years after the end of its run.
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Big Green Mean Man



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PostPosted: Sun Nov 01, 2020 1:34 pm Reply with quote
And unlike Beastars, it actually feels natural at this stage in the story.
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Heart of the Foreign God



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PostPosted: Sun Nov 01, 2020 2:34 pm Reply with quote
Mixed feelings.
I felt like the story could go on and be way longer and we were just beginning, but its way better to end at a satisfying point than go on and drag the story down
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R.Obliv



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PostPosted: Sun Nov 01, 2020 3:09 pm Reply with quote
Abraham Omosun wrote:
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; but conversely moving to a later timeslot may result in it getting a reduced budget vs series such as MHA or JJK.


Jujutsu Kaisen is a late night anime (airs Saturdays by 1.25am) as well as Kimetsu and I don't think any of them got a reduced budget that is even if we knew the budgets of these shows (unless you have such info). Anyway, apotential chainsaw man anime could be a streaming exclusive since those seem to get away with anything.


Ah, sorry about that, I made the wrong assumption there... Can't spell assumption without ass and all. I was under the impression late night anime had reduced viewership vs that of daytime anime, so was therefore likely to get a comparatively reduced budget. Basically, advertising at late night being cheaper due to lower figures, thereby meaning that money available from sponsorships would be comparatively small. Reading up more, it appears that the production company pays to use the slot, and then finds their own advertisers - but I really don't know how valuable those adverts would be. I couldn't really find any information to confirm or deny my assumption that late night would have a reduced budget vs daytime - hopefully someone more knowledgeable about this could correct me.

In that case, if they are all late night anime it really does just depend on the studio. Justin Sevakis posted an Answerman for the question "Does An Anime's Budget Affect Its Quality?" which, to summarize, explained that most late night anime have a similar budget so it depended on the artists involved. JJK got MAPPA, who have shown a really strong quality of animation around their projects, even those that are bad. So while I can't comment on late night vs daytime anime budgeting, if CSM gets announced, it will likely have a similar budget to JJK (unless the production company has trouble getting sponsors due to the material of the show, edit: though as someone pointed out above, Goblin Slayer does exist so there are people that will advertise on anything) and the studio will be the deciding factor. Sorry again about the confusion related to that.

Also, just wanted to add - I'm happy the series is ending when it feels comfortable, and seems to have a clear direction as to how it will do so. I don't think CSM suits running too long - the series plays a bit too fast and loose to suit a multi-year narrative. Death is common, big events occur just as the plot slows down and mysteries are answered with surprising speed. It's had a strong narrative so far because it clearly didn't feel the need to plan beyond a couple of years, so didn't have the risk of outstaying it's welcome. CSM has been bold, stylish and just a lot of fun to read. I hope it sticks the landing.
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ETX



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PostPosted: Sun Nov 01, 2020 6:39 pm Reply with quote
Can't say I'll be sad to see it end, if anything quite the opposite.

Ever since the spoiler[Makima shenanigans] ramped up I began tired of it.
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Thatguy3331



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PostPosted: Sun Nov 01, 2020 7:25 pm Reply with quote
Not surprising because I mean, God, how on earth could you possibly go forward after all that? At least it seems to be on it's own terms (as far as we know)

It's going to be really interesting what sticks in Jump from here on out since alot of the big names they had are just dropping like flies.
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 01, 2020 9:09 pm Reply with quote
I also expected Chainsaw Man to get an anime, but if it’s ending before they have anything in production to announce, then who knows? I have been enjoying the series, much more so than the manga-ka’s previous work Fire Punch, which couldn’t balance it’s similar mix of Uber-edgy violence, comedy and (at least semi) sincere emotional beats. Chainsaw Man just worked better. I’ll look forward to their next manga.
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Dian Z





PostPosted: Sun Nov 01, 2020 10:44 pm Reply with quote
I haven't really read the manga (just pieces of chapters lately), so I don't know about its overall quality. But the artstyle seems to match Masaaki Yuasa's style, it'll be interesting to see if he takes interest in adapting the story and brings to life the distinctive artworks (although if it's him, I doubt it could go longer than a season).
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Ushio



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PostPosted: Mon Nov 02, 2020 12:12 am Reply with quote
So it's entering it's finale arc that doesn't mean it's ending anytime soon finale arc's can last years!
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