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Forum - View topicEP. REVIEW: Wistoria: Wand and Sword Season 2
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minamikaze
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The barrier has not fallen. The Magia Vanders successfully reconstructed it, but in doing so, they depleted almost all of their magic, so they are vulnerable. The masked villain (Marze) remarked that their plan was to kill the Magia Vanders in their weakened state when they came out of the tower to fight the monsters to save the town. If the Magia Vanders were killed, the barrier could not be reconstructed when it expired in a year. The monsters did not come through the barrier. They were transported from the deepest parts of the dungeon by the headless villain's gate magic. |
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The Scream Man
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I... did not even think for a SECOND Rosty was an Ice Golem, but that makes SO much sense....
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Nyren
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To be fair I think the anime oddly makes the theory more plausible, as it were, because when I read the manga I don't recall it being quite so clear. I don't even think it's confirmed yet in the manga. As for the latest episode, I've felt the pacing was weird this entire time. Like they were really stretching out the manga chapters. The season is probably 12 episodes so they likely have a specific end goal in mind, and it might be too quick to get there if they speed up the pacing. Like, I felt like this probably could have been in the first episode rather than the third for an explosive kick-off to the season. I could be misremembering from the manga, but I feel like it got to this point a lot quicker. |
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Aerdra
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I guess this is one of those problems that arise from adaptation for television. The story needs to broken into chunks of 23 minutes 40 seconds, and there needs to be some kind of climactic ending every 12 chunks. When stories don't naturally fit that schedule, issues occur. In the previous episode review, the reviewer said this current arc should've been a climactic event rather than an opening act. I rewatched the previous season just before the current season started, and I feel these first few episodes are a natural continuation of the end of last season. Unfortunately, television broadcast schedules demanded the story be cut in half. The alternative, trying to cram everything into one cour, would've resulted in an even worse story. |
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Gina Szanboti
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Could someone remind/explain to me the relationship between Wistoria and DanMachi's Orario? How is Finn here? I vaguely recall people saying he's the same character and not just an odd recycling of name and design, but I'm not sure if that's the majority opinion or not, since I didn't really understand the conversation then, so I didn't retain any specifics.
At this point I keep expecting it to turn out that Wistoria is the lowest level of Orario's dungeon cordoned off by the Tower, a la the Fire Force/Soul Eater connection. If it turns out the author is just randomly reusing characters for s&g, I'm going to be sore annoyed. |
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Aerdra
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I'm not sure whether there's a connection or not, but Finn is not the only cameo from DanMachi. Lefiya Viridis and Filvis Challia both come from Sword Oratoria, retaining the same appearance and the same voice actresses. Ellenor Ljos Alf has a similar name to Riveria Ljos Alf, and both are elf royalty. In DanMachi, Finn, Riveria, and Lefiya all belong to Loki Familia, while Filvis often encounters them. |
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jr240483
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A) It is EXTREMELY UNLIKELY that fugino omori is going to pull a FIRE FORCE and make wistoria a prequel to the danmachi universe! ken akamatsu tried to do that by making UQ HOLDER at first, a spinoff to Negima and then out of nowhere a direct sequel later on in the volumes which sadly had disastrous results. omori is definitely NOT gonna do that with wistoria. and B) authors using the same character names and designs for multiple series not related to one another is NOT UNCOMMON AT ALL! for instance, the new rumiko series MAO looks more like a moden day inuyasha whereas arakawa's deamon series is basically FMA mixed with heroic legend of arslan! and lets not forget that nasu, creator of the fate series has infamously reuses names and faces for his fate stay night eroge game to make new characters for his fate grand order gacha game & anime and at times, have them connected ( ie having FSN's Rin Tousaka being the host for goddess Ishtar & Eresh for Fate Grand Order's Babalyonia arc ) |
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Blaze_1013
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I really wish anime had more flexibility to exist outside of the 12/13 episode space that the vast majority of series follow. These first 4 episodes really should have just been the ending to the first season. I enjoyed the end of this story arc, and excited for what seems to be the start of the main story proper, but I think it would have hit harder if this all was just directly part of the first season and this arc was shortened by an episode or so since last episode did drag a bit and this episode burnt a lot of time replaying the end of last week and with the ending being double length. The fight was cool as hell though so that's good at least.
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WatcherZer
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I saw this episode and the Chainsaw Man film last night and I think Wistoria was the superior animation.
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malvarez1
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Yuuuuup, this is where season 1 should’ve ended, but ah well. I personally think the review was a tad too harsh, but I know that as a manga reader, it might hit different for me.
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Kelohmello
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Personally, none of the things I found appealing about the first season of Wistoria were present in these first 4 episodes. Will was a cool protagonist because he was fighting uphill battles against people who can use magic freely while he couldn't, so the Super Saiyan stuff was painful to see. And really the whole setup to get him there felt cheap and unearned, what with the really bad fakeout death. It's all made worse by, like everyone else is saying too, the fact that this shouldn't have been how the season started, this is how last season should have ended.
Really hoping it gets back to what made the first season great now. |
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Aerdra
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Yeah, if TV anime seasons could have 15-16 episodes, this could've been a good stopping point. But I'm glad they didn't try to squeeze the story thus far into 12-13 episodes. |
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malvarez1
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Oh for sure, this isn’t ideal, but I’ll still take it over skipping/abridging content. |
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Nyren
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After this episode I feel like I know where they're going to try and end the season. There's really only one climactic fight in the manga after this one that I feel like they could realistically reach by the end of the season. The wacky pacing makes me think they're trying to stall for time and stretch what they have because the manga isn't actually too far beyond where this season is going to end.
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Daidan12
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About Finn, he's a hype man that has been waiting for Will during centuries, his exposition with the freaking Mage Queen, Mercedes, founder of the Tower, is there to explain that Will was promised to the Tower 3000 years ago, I mean 400. And as we saw her giving away her baby, that Will is her/his descendant, Mercedes of the Wands and Finn of the Swords.
About Will's big fight, it was about being the only hope at that particular moment (and on the big narrative too) for the Mages. Will's courage wasn't born out of nothing or innate to him, was born of a desire to be accepted, to be worthy, he wanted to be like his peers, that's why he always have admired Sion as the best of them, even when he was horrible to him, he wanted to reach that place, and if he has just given up, he would never reach it, fate and himself worked together to earn that spot. Another big thing that the reviewer missed, is that while everyone is incredible surprised about Will's Wis, Elfaria isn't, she already knew/saw this before and it was part of her unshakable trust in him, she knew that Will had the power to protect everyone, but still she wanted to go and protect him. It's a pretty damn great episode and one of the biggest transformation/powers I have seen in a looooong time. |
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