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Angelcake



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PostPosted: Sun Jan 29, 2006 4:57 pm Reply with quote
Of all the greats of manga, it seems that this guy is the ONLY one of them that has never had his work released in the U.S.

With the exception of a limited release of Devilman comics from Verotik comics, Go Nagai's work has been completely ignored by the major manga industry. I've never figured out why, because he's one of the most influential and innovative in the art form. After all, he was the inventor of the giant mecha. He also invented the transformable magic girl.

I mean, I know that people say that censorship issues are part of the problem, but then again, anyone can get a copy of the Urotsukidoji manga, fully translated into English! So I've yet to hear a good reason why noone is willing to bring his work over here.

Does anyone else other than me really want to see his work brought over to the U.S. ?

For those of you who are not familiar with his work, here's a short list of his most famous works:

-Devilman
-Cutie Honey
-Mazinger Z
-Violence Jack
-Demon Lord Dante
-Shameless School
-Hannape Bazooka
-Steel Jeeg
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shadow_guyver



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PostPosted: Sun Jan 29, 2006 6:41 pm Reply with quote
My guess would be that it's mostly fairly old. The US companies probably aren't looking for older series that much, and only bring over those done by manga artists that are already well known among manga readers.

Not that I've got a problem with Go Nagai. I love his stuff, especially his giant robot works, like Mazinger Z and Getter Robo. I just don't think the companies think he'll sell well enough.
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dark_hand



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PostPosted: Sun Jan 29, 2006 7:15 pm Reply with quote
i've never heard any of the titles that you mention. maybe they are only popular in japan. however, i do have heard about urotsukidoji. kinda off topic but where can you get an english copy of it? i don't buy things online though so if you can suggest the name of a book store i'd greatly appreciate it. as for if anybody want his titles to be released in u.s., i would like that. i am kinda losing options from the mangas that are published here. there are way too many shoujos and shounens which are not my types.
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Angelcake



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PostPosted: Sun Jan 29, 2006 7:22 pm Reply with quote
shadow_guyver wrote:
My guess would be that it's mostly fairly old. The US companies probably aren't looking for older series that much, and only bring over those done by manga artists that are already well known among manga readers.

Not that I've got a problem with Go Nagai. I love his stuff, especially his giant robot works, like Mazinger Z and Getter Robo. I just don't think the companies think he'll sell well enough.


That's not neccessarily true, you know. Tokyopop published both Cyborg 009 and Lupin III, both fairly old manga.

And of course Viz has published some of Osamu Tezuka's early stuff, and that stuff goes back even before 1950!

However, you do have a good point. Still, its a crying shame.
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darkhunter



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PostPosted: Sun Jan 29, 2006 7:26 pm Reply with quote
dark_hand wrote:
i've never heard any of the titles that you mention. maybe they are only popular in japan.


Well how much of anime/manga do you actually know? Devil Man, Cutie Honey, and Magazine Z are pretty popular stuff over here too.
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darkhunter



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PostPosted: Sun Jan 29, 2006 7:35 pm Reply with quote
Angelcake wrote:
shadow_guyver wrote:
My guess would be that it's mostly fairly old. The US companies probably aren't looking for older series that much, and only bring over those done by manga artists that are already well known among manga readers.

Not that I've got a problem with Go Nagai. I love his stuff, especially his giant robot works, like Mazinger Z and Getter Robo. I just don't think the companies think he'll sell well enough.


That's not neccessarily true, you know. Tokyopop published both Cyborg 009 and Lupin III, both fairly old manga.

And of course Viz has published some of Osamu Tezuka's early stuff, and that stuff goes back even before 1950!

However, you do have a good point. Still, its a crying shame.


Lupin the III, Tezuka Osamu, and even Lone Wolf & Cub are all well known properites and have a cult following. Even so, comparing classic to new release, it's not like companies are rushing out to get all the classic title. The newer manga geration are in the teens and they're usually more interested in what's recent and trendy. Also maybe the older classic are harder to for companies to get their hand on either by being pricey or mangaka/company are reluctant to license out his series.
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Angelcake



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PostPosted: Sun Jan 29, 2006 10:53 pm Reply with quote
darkhunter wrote:
Angelcake wrote:
shadow_guyver wrote:
My guess would be that it's mostly fairly old. The US companies probably aren't looking for older series that much, and only bring over those done by manga artists that are already well known among manga readers.

Not that I've got a problem with Go Nagai. I love his stuff, especially his giant robot works, like Mazinger Z and Getter Robo. I just don't think the companies think he'll sell well enough.


That's not neccessarily true, you know. Tokyopop published both Cyborg 009 and Lupin III, both fairly old manga.

And of course Viz has published some of Osamu Tezuka's early stuff, and that stuff goes back even before 1950!

However, you do have a good point. Still, its a crying shame.


Lupin the III, Tezuka Osamu, and even Lone Wolf & Cub are all well known properites and have a cult following. Even so, comparing classic to new release, it's not like companies are rushing out to get all the classic title. The newer manga geration are in the teens and they're usually more interested in what's recent and trendy. Also maybe the older classic are harder to for companies to get their hand on either by being pricey or mangaka/company are reluctant to license out his series.


I'd like to think that ATLEAST the manga he had published in Shonen Jump (Devilman, Mazinger Z, etc.) would make it here. After all, they WERE some of Jump's biggest hits, and Viz is pretty much SCRAMBLING to get ahold of every hot property that Weekly Shonen Jump was involved in.
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shadow_guyver



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PostPosted: Sun Jan 29, 2006 10:54 pm Reply with quote
darkhunter got my point. Sure, there will be exceptions, there always are, but the overall trend in the US manga market is towards the more recent titles.
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huh?



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PostPosted: Tue Jan 31, 2006 9:13 am Reply with quote
despite their cult following, lupin, LW&C, and phoenix dont all sell incredibly well. i know that lupin doesnt at least. so if a go nagai manga was licensed im sure the company would lose more money than they would make.
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Coffeeman



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PostPosted: Tue Jan 31, 2006 9:16 am Reply with quote
The best Go Nagai series is definately Kekko Kamen.
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JoshuaStChristopher



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PostPosted: Tue Jan 31, 2006 3:19 pm Reply with quote
Coffeeman wrote:
The best Go Nagai series is definately Kekko Kamen.


If by Kekko Kamen you mean Shin! Getter Robo.

Which may be the greatest thing on God's green Earth.
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Coffeeman



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PostPosted: Tue Jan 31, 2006 5:11 pm Reply with quote
JoshuaStChristopher wrote:
Coffeeman wrote:
The best Go Nagai series is definately Kekko Kamen.


If by Kekko Kamen you mean Shin! Getter Robo.

Which may be the greatest thing on God's green Earth.


Kekko Kamen is like makes Shin! Getter Robo look like Shin! Getter Robo Go!.
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.Sy



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PostPosted: Tue Jan 31, 2006 5:19 pm Reply with quote
dark_hand wrote:
i've never heard any of the titles that you mention. maybe they are only popular in japan.
I've heard of several of those titles. I'm not sure why North American companies have decided to release some titles over others, because some of the manga licenced is quite terrible and doesn't sell well at all. Those titles aforementioned probably don't appeal to a large audience (a.k.a. - the teens). There have been many other manga that people around these forums seem to like a lot, but companies like VIZ are more interested in getting more Shonen Action going. That's what it seems like anyway. New titles are also "all the rage", y'know.
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Kagemusha



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PostPosted: Tue Jan 31, 2006 9:20 pm Reply with quote
Classic/pre-Akira manga has a pretty niche market in the US, and for the most part those who do buy them are older than the average manga fan. Most of Nagai's stuff seems to be intended for teenaged boys. So the classic manga crowd probobly won't buy them and most of the target audience won't look at things with old school art, so companies probobly don't think his manga would sell.
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JoshuaStChristopher



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PostPosted: Wed Feb 01, 2006 12:04 pm Reply with quote
Kagemusha wrote:
Classic/pre-Akira manga has a pretty niche market in the US, and for the most part those who do buy them are older than the average manga fan. Most of Nagai's stuff seems to be intended for teenaged boys. So the classic manga crowd probobly won't buy them and most of the target audience won't look at things with old school art, so companies probobly don't think his manga would sell.


It's quite unfortunate, really.

I love me some Go Nagai. His stuff is pure. It's just violence and convoluted stories. I mean, what other series do you get to see Jupiter cut in half? And logic so blatantly thrown out of the window?
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