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the Rancorous



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PostPosted: Wed Aug 02, 2006 2:43 am Reply with quote
Now, I am NOT talking about life lessons or what not at all. I am talking about actual hostorical things, or science-related things, etc that you learned from seeing in an anime.

For example, in one of my history classes, the instructor started going over the "basic-run-down" of japanese history and started going through the whole Tokugawa Shogun and whatnot, and I realized that through both Samurai Champloo and Ninja Scroll I knew the basic run-downs of this period, and had to chuckle to myself during this lecture.

Another one was in one of my theatre classes. We had to read plays and analyze them for content, context, etc. We had to look up key things that characters of said plays brought up and whatnot. In one of these plays, How I learned to Drive one of the characters mentioned The Rape of the Saybean Woman in an argument they had with another character, and as soon as I read that I laughed since I had learned about the Rape of the Saybean Woman from Gunslinger Girl episode 7, When Jean and Rico go to Florence to protect the guy that happened to be a student of the arts.

So, any similar experiences with the rest of you?
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outlawwolf



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PostPosted: Wed Aug 02, 2006 3:19 am Reply with quote
I know I've had a similar experience where sudden historical knowledge from Rurouni Kenshin actually helped me get an answer correct in a Global History test I once had. Just a random thing that I remembered but I'll be damned if I can pick it out. Other than random japanese words and slang and that one incident, I can't really say I have.
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DaZ616



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PostPosted: Wed Aug 02, 2006 3:46 am Reply with quote
I haven't learnt anything historical or anything like that from anime, but watching Initial D kinda gives me an idea on how to race and drift Very Happy

Aside from that, watching anime in the modern world gives me an idea of what japanese culture is like in japan. etc etc.

Im some anime, the fansubs sometime gives us, the viewers a sidenote on what the characters are talking about or referencing. This teaches me a few things that may come in handy in the future, for example, when i go to japan, ill know what to do and what not to do.

-DaZ
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abunai
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 02, 2006 4:21 am Reply with quote
the Rancorous wrote:
For example, in one of my history classes, the instructor started going over the "basic-run-down" of japanese history and started going through the whole Tokugawa Shogun and whatnot, and I realized that through both Samurai Champloo and Ninja Scroll I knew the basic run-downs of this period, and had to chuckle to myself during this lecture.

While I appreciate the point you're trying to make, I must point out that trusting these two sources, in particular, for any historical data, is not exactly the smartest thing to do. But yes, I suppose they can provide a bare minimum of insight into the period.
the Rancorous wrote:
Another one was in one of my theatre classes. We had to read plays and analyze them for content, context, etc. We had to look up key things that characters of said plays brought up and whatnot. In one of these plays, How I learned to Drive one of the characters mentioned The Rape of the Saybean Woman in an argument they had with another character, and as soon as I read that I laughed since I had learned about the Rape of the Saybean Woman from Gunslinger Girl episode 7, When Jean and Rico go to Florence to protect the guy that happened to be a student of the arts.

*wince* You mean the Rape of the Sabine women. It's a much-used classical theme, from Plutarch's Lives of the Noble Greeks and Romans. It was very popular in olden days, when the classical origin served as a plausible excuse for presenting a "racy" scene in art.

Plutarch wrote:
In the fourth month, after the city was built, as Fabius writes, the adventure of stealing the women was attempted; and some say Romulus himself, being naturally a martial man, and predisposed too, perhaps, by certain oracles, to believe the fates had ordained the future growth and greatness of Rome should depend upon the benefit of war, upon these accounts first offered violence to the Sabines, since he took away only thirty virgins, more to give an occasion of war than out of any want of women. But this is not very probable; it would seem rather that, observing his city to be filled by a confluence of foreigners, few of whom had wives, and that the multitude in general, consisting of a mixture of mean and obscure men, fell under contempt, and seemed to be of no long continuance together, and hoping farther, after the women were appeased, to make this injury in some measure an occasion of confederacy and mutual commerce with the Sabines, he took in hand this exploit after this manner. First, he gave it out as if he had found an altar of a certain god hid under ground; the god they called Consus, either the god of counsel (for they still call a consultation consilium and their chief magistrates consules, namely, counselors), or else the equestrian Neptune, for the altar is kept covered in the circus maximus at all other times, and only at horse-races is exposed to public view; others merely say that this god had his altar hid under ground because counsel ought to be secret and concealed. Upon discovery of this altar, Romulus, by proclamation, appointed a day for a splendid sacrifice, and for public games and shows, to entertain all sorts of people; many flocked thither, and he himself sat in front, amidst his nobles, clad in purple. Now the signal for their falling on was to be whenever he rose and gathered up his robe and threw it over his body; his men stood all ready armed, with their eyes intent upon him, and when the sign was given, drawing their swords and falling on with a great shout, they ravished away the daughters of the Sabines, they themselves flying without any let or hindrance. They say there were but thirty taken, and from them the Curiae or Fraternities were named; but Valerius Antias says five hundred and twenty-seven, Juba, six hundred and eighty-three virgins; which was indeed the greatest excuse Romulus could allege, namely, that they had taken no married woman, save one only, Hersilia by name, and her too unknowingly; which showed they did not commit this rape wantonly, but with a design purely of forming alliance with their neighbors by the greatest and surest bonds. This Hersilia some say Hostilius married, a most eminent man among the Romans; others, Romulus himself, and that she bore two children to him, a daughter, by reason of primogeniture called Prima, and one only son, whom, from the great concourse of citizens to him at that time, he called Aollius, but after ages Abillius. But Zenodotus the Troezenian, in giving this account, is contradicted by many.

Among those who committed this rape upon the virgins, there were, they say, as it so then happened, some of the meaner sort of men, who were carrying off a damsel, excelling all in beauty and comeliness of stature, whom when some of superior rank that met them attempted to take away, they cried out they were carrying her to Talasius, a young man, indeed, but brave and worthy; hearing that, they commended and applauded them loudly, and also some, turning back, accompanied them with goodwill and pleasure, shouting out the name of Talasius. Hence the Romans to this very time, at their weddings, sing Talasius for their nuptial word, as the Greeks do Hymenaeus, because, they say, Talasius was very happy in his marriage. But Sextius Sylla the Carthaginian, a man wanting neither learning nor ingenuity, told me Romulus gave this word as a sign when to begin the onset; everybody, therefore, who made prize of a maiden, cried out, Talasius; and for that reason the custom continues so now at marriages. But most are of opinion (of whom Juba particularly is one) that this word was used to new-married women by way of incitement to good housewifery and talasia (spinning), as we say in Greek, Greek words at that time not being as yet overpowered by Italian. But if this be the case, and if the Romans did at that time use the word talasia as we do, a man might fancy a more probable reason of the custom. For when the Sabines, after the war against the Romans, were reconciled, conditions were made concerning their women, that they should be obliged to do no other servile offices to their husbands but what concerned spinning; it was customary, therefore, ever after, at weddings, for those that gave the bride or escorted her or otherwise were present, sportingly to say Talasius, intimating that she was henceforth to serve in spinning and no more. It continues also a custom at this very day for the bride not of herself to pass her husband's threshold, but to be lifted over, in memory that the Sabine virgins were carried in by violence, and did not go in of their own will. Some say, too, the custom of parting the bride's hair with the head of a spear was in token their marriages began at first by war and acts of hostility, of which I have spoken more fully in my book of Questions.

This rape was committed on the eighteenth day of the month Sextilis, now called August, on which the solemnities of the Consualia are kept.


- abunai
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DaZ616



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PostPosted: Wed Aug 02, 2006 4:29 am Reply with quote
From watching "The Prince of Tennis", i also learnt a few more rules to the game of tennis, which i didn't know about before. I also learnt about the different types of gameplay and strategies that can happen in the game of tennis. The series also taught me about the different type of shots played in tennis, such as "the rising shot", " the "twist serve". Heck, i've even tried doing the twist serve.

So Thanks to "The Prince Of Tennis" i know alot more about the game of tennis.

-DaZ
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Mercury Crusader



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PostPosted: Wed Aug 02, 2006 6:59 am Reply with quote
I learned how to construct sentences in Japanese a lot easier. Grammar was always the hardest part of learning the language for me, because I still find it confusing to have the verbs at the end of my sentences like that (same reason I never picked up Tagalog, and I'm half-Filipino Sad ). The downside is I refuse to actually SPEAK the language in a serious fashion until I find a suitable mannerism of talking, because I don't want to sound like a 10 year old magical girl or anything.
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Quadraxis



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PostPosted: Wed Aug 02, 2006 7:03 am Reply with quote
I've learned a lot about bread from Yakitate!! Japan Smile . That show still remains to be one of my favourites.

Although learning me about bread isn't that hard to do, since I didn't know anything about making it in the first place Razz.
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Mylene



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PostPosted: Wed Aug 02, 2006 7:23 am Reply with quote
As a tennis player/fan, I couldn't stand most of the tennis shown in Prince of Tennis. However, they did at least get the scoring right, that lines are in, a few basics, so I suppose one could learn from that. Even without liking all the overly stylized tennis, I do have hope that it might lead to a few more Japanese men in the professional tennis world (there are a great deal of women, like Sugiyama Ai, Morigami Akiko, Fujiwara, Asagoe Shinobu, Nakamura, etc, but the highest ranked man is Suzuki and he's nowhere near the top 100, if I'm remembering correctly from the last time I looked through the rankings), and if it goes well in America, perhaps encourage a few new players in the US as well. (And players/fans wherever the show is aired.)

Anyway. I've learned a bit about the very basic basics of the Tanabata festival from watching several shows around the same time that all decided to have a Tanabata episode--.hack//Legend of the Twilight, Suzumiya Haruhi no Yuuutsu, and even last night it was mentioned in an episode of Piano. Not a whole lot, but enough that I can watch a show that doesn't literally explain what it's talking about, and still somewhat understand what's going on.

Azumanga Daioh (with translation notes) was a nice way to learn about the existence of certain myths, monsters, and traditions. I can't think of anything specifically I learned from the show, but I know it sparked my interest in a few topics that I need to get around to reading about soon.

Oh, and the Bubblegum Crisis extras have taught me that while the late 80s were a bad time for fashion in the US, it was a worse time for fashion in Japan. ^_-
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undeadben



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PostPosted: Wed Aug 02, 2006 7:50 am Reply with quote
I don't think I've ever really learned from anime directly, but there are a few anime that have made me look things up that seemed somewhat interesting. Ususally info in anime is only loosely based on something factual and sometimes it is interesting to learn where it comes from.

For instance, very recently from watching Fushigi Yuugi I did some searches and discovered some things about Chinese constellations and looked up some of the more interesting things. It was just interesting to learn how the astronomy differed from (western) astronomy here.

Years ago I had done research for some papers on vampires and Vlad the Impaler and after reading a thread here a couple of months ago about Hellsing I went back to review some of the Vlad and Dracula legends. Hellsing is not remotely close to any existing vampire legends, but some things in the anime are interesting, like that Hellsing's creator said that Alucard is 567 years old; counting back from when the series aired, 1999, this would put his birthday in the same year as Vlad the Impaler.

After seeing several anime stories centered around Tanabata, I also wanted to look into it and ended up learning a lot about not only Tanabata but several other very unique clebretations or holidays in Japan, some that I have also seen mentioned in other anime.

So while I can't say I have learned anything from anime directly, except that it is very entertaining, sometimes I do get something in my head from an anime episode or series and indirectly it does sometimes take me on some very interesting searches where I do learn something.
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ShinobiX



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PostPosted: Wed Aug 02, 2006 8:07 am Reply with quote
I learned jack from anime since it's all fake, but if this counts as learning something, I learned religion jokes from Ghost Stories.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 02, 2006 5:57 pm Reply with quote
ShinobiX wrote:
I learned jack from anime since it's all fake

Right... so something like WWII in Zipang is all fake, gotcha' Rolling Eyes.

I've learned a number of cultural facts from watching Azumanga Daioh, Kare Kano, and School Rumble (all taking place in high school, coincidentally). And I've learned a lot of interesting food/bread/cultural factoids from Yakitate!! Japan. I saw and heard about all kinds of different breads that I knew nothing about or even existed (makes me kind of hungry now that I think about it Anime cry).

I also learned a little bit of Japanese history through various Bakumatsu/Meiji era titles and a little of European history through Monster, though it was hard to tell with all of those Johan/511 Kinderheim references in between.

And on the Juubei-chan 2 DVDs, I learned a little about kenjutsu and tea ceremony (the actual processes of doing them; and Horie Yui looks cute in a kimono by the way Razz).
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the Rancorous



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PostPosted: Wed Aug 02, 2006 6:18 pm Reply with quote
abunai wrote:
the Rancorous wrote:
For example, in one of my history classes, the instructor started going over the "basic-run-down" of japanese history and started going through the whole Tokugawa Shogun and whatnot, and I realized that through both Samurai Champloo and Ninja Scroll I knew the basic run-downs of this period, and had to chuckle to myself during this lecture.

While I appreciate the point you're trying to make, I must point out that trusting these two sources, in particular, for any historical data, is not exactly the smartest thing to do. But yes, I suppose they can provide a bare minimum of insight into the period.


Basic run-downs as in terms, names, who was in power, but beleive me I know not to rely on much accuracy from those 2 peices, but all the terms and power-structure that the instructor went over were already familiar to me because of those 2 animes.
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Deltakiral



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PostPosted: Wed Aug 02, 2006 6:47 pm Reply with quote
Tony K. wrote:
and a little of European history through Monster, though it was hard to tell with all of those Johan/511 Kinderheim references in between.


Ding! That right I was alive when the wall came down but to young to be able to grasp the important at the time. And so I didn't know all the little things about how dangerous the trip from east to the west was. Not only that I don't think about how different Germany/Czech countries were before the wall, it's easy to forget something specially when your an entire ocean away. You learn things in history but often times you don't absorbed the information, certain people just learn better from different mediums.
Till next time,

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caseclosedfan414



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PostPosted: Wed Aug 02, 2006 10:20 pm Reply with quote
I, like you, learned a little bit about Japan's history from Samurai Champloo, but like it's been said, it's not a very trustworthy source.

I also remember learning about how things work in an animation studio from an episode of Paranoia Agent. It taught me a lot about some of the different positions there and the different things that need to be done to make an anime. Not to mention, how they do them.

And, I don't know what catergory this would fall under (life lesson or straight-up fact), but Fullmetal Alchemist opened my eyes to the whole Equivilent Exchange thing. I mean, I know they were talking about alchemy, which isn't real, but come to think of it, it does apply to normal, every-day life. It's real, and FMA made me realize that, after thinking about it enough.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 02, 2006 10:34 pm Reply with quote
Other than random bits of Japanese culture, I'd have to say learning the meaning of drift from Initial D has been the sole piece of real knowledge I have picked up. And before you laugh, you wouldn't believe how this has come in handy. Smile
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