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S0crates



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PostPosted: Wed Nov 21, 2018 9:54 am Reply with quote
Calsolum wrote:
I'm a fan of the tropes portrayed in this series but the writing is just... bad. really bad.

I can totally understand other people would like it regardless of its glaring faults but unless they were banking on the 'true' fans having deep pockets who would buy the blu rays regardless this series seems... is unlikely to appeal to anyone outside of that very specific niche.

Its a real shame because with some competent editorial changes this could have been a really funny series.


Tbh. series like this live and die off the animation quality, and I think I dropped it after episode 2 myself, with the drop in quality being a huge letdown. Eromanga Sensei and Oreimo have such glorious meme potential combined with wonderful designs. Much of the jokes are in the drawings rather than the oral presentation, and the clever use of "emotion visualizations".





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AJ (LordNikon)



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PostPosted: Wed Nov 21, 2018 11:02 am Reply with quote
Lord Geo wrote:
Calsolum wrote:

The money and time that went into this should have been spent looking for a better series.


This is a fallacy that a lot of fans seem to believe in, but it's not how anime production works. There isn't some collective queue of money (& time) waiting to be used, and instead the this series was chosen specifically to be made into anime. It not being adapted would not have resulted in something else being chosen in its place, because that's not how production works. It simply wouldn't have been made, & that money simply wouldn't have been spent.

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I'm sure that sounds cruel but I feel like rejection handled professionally would have served this author better because then he could make his next work better.

Who knows maybe people bashing his work now WILL make his next work better.


You're making it sound like the creator was the one responsible for the anime being put into production in the first place, as if they were directly making pitches to anime studios, which is really wrong. Sure, the creator may have been consulted to some extent, but the idea of making an anime likely came about by the publisher, which wanted to help promote sales of the original source material by making anime, i.e. the very reason why anime adaptations of manga/novels/games are made in the first place.


THANK YOU!!

You saved me a lot of time form typing the exact same thing.

And to be fair, this could and can happen to any production studio and series. Depending on ones view, some I am sure that these issues are happening to Little Sister as opposed to Gridman, or Goblin Slayer.

NAZ is hardly the new kid on the block here, though this may be one of the few full length broadcasts for them.

As my grandkids like to say, "Let's be real", the amount of work being thrown at studio has been increasing, while at the same time, the deadlines have become next to zero. It is like TPM, Kaizen, 5S and Lean Six Sigma running amuck.

The industry is now, do as much as fast as your can and to hell if the staff dies in the process. I have many friends and a brother who work in the industry and I constantly hear them going on about the karoshi culture now.
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SkerllyFC07



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PostPosted: Wed Nov 21, 2018 11:09 am Reply with quote
Calsolum wrote:
Lmao thats... kinda sad.

i have to wonder WHY this series was okayed in the first place.

I'm a fan of the tropes portrayed in this series but the writing is just... bad. really bad.

I can totally understand other people would like it regardless of its glaring faults but unless they were banking on the 'true' fans having deep pockets who would buy the blu rays regardless this series seems... is unlikely to appeal to anyone outside of that very specific niche.


Well, this is what happens when most of the bulk of anime series being produced today is just otaku trash. Then you tell me all Netflix originals released this year were dissapointing, when I tell you that most of those releases were miles better than most anime released elsewhere this season
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Lord Geo



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PostPosted: Wed Nov 21, 2018 11:43 am Reply with quote
Calsolum wrote:

With that information, I would emphasise that the company needed a more talented gatekeeper or scout or researcher.
Whoever's job it is to look for work that could be adapted should have found something 'better'.
At the very least something with more widespread appeal instead of this very niche and now oversaturated demographic.
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If the end goal of the publisher is money which lets be honest is always the end goal then they I would have chosen something else.
To be frank 'My Sister, My Writer' is bad. Sickingly so.
From a 'general' perspective.
Watching the first few episodes I wanted to meet this author's editor and ask why would you let your company publish this drivel?
Just tell him its bad and then you can suggest to him how he can improve it.
I know it fits a specific niche and that's great but if they company wanted profit then animating a niche title and hoping it becomes the next big thing is not the way to go.


You're still misunderstanding things, though. The most likely reason My Sister, My Writer was chosen to be made into an anime was because the publisher wanted to promote My Sister, My Writer, & nothing would change that. There isn't any "scout" or "researcher" whose job it is to determine what titles should receive an anime adaptation, but rather the publisher most likely saw that MS,MW was selling well, so it wanted to build off of that & make an anime in order to help get more people to buy the original source material, plus whatever swag & merchandise could be made around the anime. Could some other title have been chosen for adapting into anime? Sure, but MS,MW was not chosen in place of anything else, which is the common fallacy anime fans tend to push when something they don't like has been given an anime adaptation, instead of something they'd prefer to see be animated; it's using personal feelings to incorrectly explain a strictly corporate process.

Make no mistake: I don't care about this series whatsoever, so I am not trying to defend its story, characters, etc. But do realize that just because you don't like it, that doesn't mean that no one else likes it or that it sells poorly in Japan, because if it wasn't appealing to a specific niche of the Japanese audience, then it would have been cancelled long ago, let alone even be given an anime adaptation. Publishers don't go looking to make anime adaptations of titles that are bombing, after all.

As for appealing to a "very niche and now oversaturated demographic", that's unfortunately not going to change, because anime in Japan has mostly become about targeting the otaku market. "Mainstream" time slots are few & far between today, and they're mostly taken up by the giants. Late-night time slots have been the de facto place for anime to air for more than a decade now, and the only people watching anime at those times, or at least recording it on their DVRs, are the otaku.

MS,MW is a perfect example of just how saturated the anime industry is, & really has been for over a decade, but unless a downright crash were to happen (because streaming is only doing so much over there), nothing is really going to change how it all works, sadly.
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myfairx



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PostPosted: Wed Nov 21, 2018 1:00 pm Reply with quote
I kinda like the first 2 ep and while the animation start to get wonky in ep 2, it's ep3 that turned me off with cheap fanservice.

And now this

It reminds me of Imouto Sae Ireba Ii "in story situations" that captures issues of trashy adaptation and last minute shift in choosing title to adapt.

Also reminds me a lot of "animation runner Kuromi"
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 21, 2018 3:10 pm Reply with quote
SkerllyFC07 wrote:

Well, this is what happens when most of the bulk of anime series being produced today is just otaku trash. Then you tell me all Netflix originals released this year were dissapointing, when I tell you that most of those releases were miles better than most anime released elsewhere this season


You are so wrong over 9000 mister. This season has probably been the best anime season ever. We had so many great shows, especially during the Winter and Spring season!

Netflix on the other hand has everybody mad about pretty much anything that is an adaptation to the level that Netflix adaptations has become running memes of how not to stick to the original content.
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