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poltroon
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In the anime, when Sylvester toured the Orphanage Workshop, you saw Benno have A Moment when he greeted Sylvester, and then Sylvester hauling him off for a discussion. If you read the light novels, that's a side story that's pretty great. I think the anime could have used two more episodes to really do the conclusion with more of the nuance of the source material. It still was a terrific season. That final blessing is so powerful and so bittersweet. I hope they will continue it into another season, though they will probably have to spend an episode or two of flashback to explain some of the events and consequences that they glossed over. Also: Myne has essentially been isekai'ed into yet another world. As Rozemyne, she has a new identity, but again, she hasn't been raised or educated for it, but instead brings to it the common sense and knowledge of Japan and then the lower city and THEN the temple... all of which are quite unlike the life of a noble girl. |
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Eriad25
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I love this anime but there is obe thing i hate about it. Myne had to give everything to protect her familly and friends. I find a bit relief in fact that she gets to see her family but it's painfull. Is Urano reinarnated in to Myne's world in order for eveything to remaintje same? I honestly hope that Myne will find her way back to be able to hug her familly and to her friends because both her family and her had to make the great sacrifice. When i first seen that she had to give up her family my heart almost broke. If an author truly has a love for character she will set Myne on a path to change everything because it's painfull when you have to treat your own family member whom you love as a stranger. I hope Ms. Miyaki will see it do something because gods brought urano in myne's body so she can change everything.
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nobahn
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If you can, read the first LN of the series ("Part 1, Vol. 1") ─ specifically, the last Extra Story ("Unchanging Daily Life"). The last sentence implies everything ─ and I deliberately use the word implies. Oh, and just FYI: The author is Miya Kazuki. EDIT: I missed this:
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Eriad25
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I checked out other covers on amazon and i get the impression that Myne or Rozemyne as she is called now has a plan in the works so she can at some point come back to her family and they might not have to treat her like stranger anymore. The way i see it Myne is walking path of nobility but she is gently nudging that path where she wants it to go so i guess towards her family, friends and her workshop. If Ferdinand,Sylvester and Karstedt think they can stop her they're wrong. Latest chapter says that she met her little brother Kamill and that's saying something. I have no idea what Miya has planned but Myne loves her familly and story should at some point go towards ending where she gets to spend time with her biological family.
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smurky turkey
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S4 E1:
Another show I have seen yet not discussed here before returns. The episode gives me a weird feeling in that most of the nobles that we have seen in previous seasons were not exactly overly friendly and now Myne has joined their ranks. Having to deal with all their customs also seems like a drag but this way she keeps her family safe and the book project can become a reality. People really need to be made aware that she does not have great stamina though, otherwise getting dragged around like a corpse may become a routine. |
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Panino Manino
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S4E1
I'm a bit skeptical about this new adaptation effort by Wit. I understand that this first episode needed to be "rushed", but seeing their executing this episode not only from Myne's point of view but also integrating scenes from two Side Stories makes me fear that we'll miss all Side Stories and the series will be hurt I lot because of this. There's also the small incomprehensible "botched" details, like that bracelet Ferdinand. From where that came from? Not only makes "little sense", they cut the point of that scene, to make Ferdinand expend Mana on Rozemyne in front of others. I really, I'm devastated by what they did to Eckhart's nose! Give it back! Stop making all characters look blandly cute! |
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Ren-Ren#1
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Hi all,
As someone who hasn't read this far into the books yet, I was a little confused about Rozemyne's adoption in the ep. I thought she was going to be adopted by the Archduke, but then the ep started with her being introduced to Karstedst's wife and son as her new mother/brother, but then at the baptism the Archduke claimed her. Maybe I need to watch the last ep of the previous season &/or just wait for the next ep, but...which family is she actually going to be living with? |
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rapata
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Didn't yet start watching S4, since I need to rewatch S1-3 to refresh as it's been years, but: In the books, spoiler[ in prologue of volume 3 (before the baptism) it is recapped: The plan is that Main will be Karstedt's biological daughter, who was due to certain reasons brought up separately in the temple. This is needed since it would be simply absolutely unacceptable for an archduke to adopt a commoner. With this setup, Rosemain being Karstedt's daughter and a noble by birth, it becomes possible to go forward with the adoption by the archduke.]
[EDIT: Added spoiler tags, just in case. -TK] |
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Panino Manino
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The Achduke can't simply adopt a commoner. They are laundering Myne's origin. Karstedt had three wives. The three were fighting and one died. The story is that Myne is daughter from the wife that died, that to protect her from the other wives she was sent to the Temple taking advantage that Ferdinand was there to watch over her. A plan like this can work because children of nobles don't "exist" before the age of 7. If they have enough Mana, adequate for their family, the children are baptized. If below adequate for their family they can be adopted by a lower class relative. If even less... or become servants, or sent to the temple, or just left to die. (this was a shocking revelation reading the LN, that word is harsh, commoners aren't even considered humans) For this reason is not strange that no one knew Myne existed. So, she was baptized as Karstedt daughter (and also Elvira's, who is now her "true" mother. What maters is who baptized you) to be presented to society and gave that large blessing to prove her Mana, so she could be adopted by the Archduke. The reason beyond controlling Myne is to also giver her the power necessary to develop the new industry and yes, it's the Archduke stepping in and stealing something valuable from a Noble Family. edit: there is expectation that the next Part 4 will be animated soon. The baptism scene showed a lot of character, some that will only come alive in the next part. |
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smurky turkey
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S4 E2:
I am a bit surprised that the dragging of an unconcious and bloody Rozemyne was skipped over this week like it did not happen. I really liked seeing Rozemyne reconnect with her family and friends. It will not be like it used to be but at least she can talk and write with some of them. The amount of demands being put upon her is quite something, be it commoner or noble, the world is rather harsh (cheers @Panino for making clear just how harsh). |
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Panino Manino
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If only it was only the art that bothered me... It's always nice to see something you like on the screen, but it' never nice to see it done in a way that don't meet your expectations. Or in this case, meets my low expectations. Perhaps they want to rush this Part 3 to get to Part 4. Part 4 is when story finally leaves Ehrenfest because Rozemyne reaches school age. And nobles goes to school in the Royal Academy, in the Sovereignty in the middle of the Country. There Rozemyne will interact with nobles from other Duchies, and as Ehrenfest is a garbage dump as much as it seems for us Rozemyne have very little status there and her every word is a "stake". But I'm getting offtopic. I'm sure that next episodes will touch some of the things they cut here, but still, we are getting the bare minimum of story and context here, hard to see what's so special about this series if it continues this way. With these two episodes it didn't even felt that Myne was separated from her family and friends. While I can't understand that this couldn't be prevented with all the cuts, it's completely missing the point. Right now Myne is VERY on edge. That inauguration Ceremony as High Bishops, besides having too little Blue Robes, also skipped an important moment. Myne crushes the Blue Robe that messed the Book Room in the previews season and says very clearly for everyone in the room to hear that his life is in her hands and shell kill him. Ferdinand and Sylvester may be selling Rozemyne as a "saint" but she can be very violent very suddenly. Even torture isn't beyond this girl. Storytelling is subtle and there are a few people keeping a very close eye about Rozemyne's emotional state, ready to take emergency measures (because with her amount of Mana she can slip and kill everyone around her in a blink), but you can't guess this from the anime, she seems fine. I really don't trust that this season will get the tone and mood right. Tell me if you want to read about important context omitted about the Temple, why Brigitte was the only Guard Knight available for the high profile job of guardian an Archduke Candidate. I also have to mention the art, and lack of attention to the art. The lights during the blessing didn't looked very nice, and worse, wrong. That Marriage Ceremony get the blessing from the two Supreme Gods, Light and Darkness. When Rozemyne blesses the couples their two colors, Golden and Dark, should emanate from her ring and rain in the room. The anime only showed the Light color. Hard to understand mistake and this is not a minor detail when the story never gives exposition dumps like other series. It's from these little details that you lean the lore. |
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Panino Manino
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I'll take the liberty to give you the context cut from the things you mentioned. spoiler[Wilfred almost killing Rozemyne Wilfred is a brat that don't takes his duties seriously and often runs away. Ferdinand, Karstedt and others intentionally expected and let Wilfred get Rozemyne away from the Baptism predicting something like this would happen. Just explaining is not enough, only by seeing Rozemyne almost dying suddenly in front of you is that people understand how frail she is. They needed to make this happen now, because if something like this happened at the Castle would be a serious political incident. Brigitte saying that the pile of reading material was too much This is an important detail. People around Rozemyne are used with all the work she does, for them it's normal, specially when she is able to complete everything they ask her to do. But a child so small working so much isn't normal, Brigitte is the first to notice this, and I'll not explain further but keep in mind this is important. I'll also not explain Brigitte's "reputation" and why she is willing to work at the Temple. Word is harsher than you think. Post episode scenes revealed that Ferdinand killed Arno. Situation given in Side Stories is: before serving Ferdinand, both Arno and Fran served the Orphanage Director, before she died. It's note only the Male Blue Robes that sexually abuse their staff, the Female Blue Robes have the power to do the same. That Orphanage Director as a pedophile and Fran was his favorite. Because of the distorted mentality inside the Temple Arno felt jealous and took advantage of Fran's traumas to torment him. It was Arno who suggested Myne be given the Orphanage Director Chambers just to torment Fran. It's not apparent in the anime but in the LN Fran acts a bit strange in a bunch of occasions and Myne sometimes notice but don't understand. Fran is always almost having a panic attack every time he gets near the Hidden Room and needs to enter it. That's why when in the end of last season when Fran went to ask Ferdinand's help in this chambers Arno lied. Ferdinand's plan would have failed if Sylvester had not giving Myne that adoption magic tool. Ferdinand investigated the situation and discovered part of what Arno did, enough to kill her. But Rozemyne never discovered any of this.] Last edited by Panino Manino on Sat Apr 11, 2026 5:56 pm; edited 1 time in total |
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smurky turkey
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Thank you for the information (the bit about letting Wilfred run wild is quite the choice). I am not sure if I should feel glad to have not read the novels. It sounds like a wonderful read with tons of details but I can imagine going from that to an anime that leaves quite a bit out would feel unsatisfying. Not having read them allows me to mostly enjoy it for what it is (though some cuts are noticeable even to me)
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Panino Manino
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I recognize that "a proper and successful" adaptation would be asking too much. It's really hard to translate the qualities in the text, because the story is from Myne's point of view only and she is an unreliable narrator.
Remember, she says that he is "translating and adapting" for us, viewers, what the characters are saying. She improves what the people from the Lower City says and simplifies what the Noble say. A lot of problems in this story comes from a clash of cultures. The Nobles talk in an excessively vague way, and Myne can only talk in more direct ways. They don't understand each other and Myne's word can kill. But how to translate this for the animation? How to show the other two to three things happening at any giving moment in this story, most we can only see in the Side Stories? impossible, unless the anime removes Myne from the position of sole protagonist and focus on telling the grand narrative following the other characters. Last edited by Panino Manino on Mon Apr 13, 2026 8:38 am; edited 1 time in total |
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Gina Szanboti
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Whatever the explanation for Wilfried's behavior and how it was allowed to happen, it's inexcusable to end an episode with the cliffhanger of Myne lying on the floor trailing blood, and then pick up the next episode without showing or even telling the outcome and moving on without a single word as if it had never happened at all. I'm kind of feeling a bit of Annie Wilkesian rage over cockadoodie cliffhangers. It would've been better just to cut that whole incident and deal with his character later when they need to.
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