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FrodoGate222
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Actually, Cara Cadaver is the creator. The name of the game is Vile: Exhumed |
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FinalVentCard
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Thank you for this one! As a side note, Cara Cadaver would make for a totally sick title for a game. |
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FishLion
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I also thought they looked really cool but I wasn't sure because robot games are intimidating to me. It is my completely biased and unfair perspective that's the result of trying to play Armored Core and having no idea what was going on. I know this is more of a mech suit and not like Armored Core, but I still get intimidated by robot driven action games with a lot of features. Despite that I think they are really cool and I would probably enjoy this, I just need to see people talk about it so I can get over my weirdly embedded preconceived notions.
Thank you for pointing this out, at first I heard people say these groups are feminist, and they do technically call themselves that, but anyone can see that their hatred of pornography (and Detroit: Become Human apparently?) has overwritten any other thinking about their goal. They think this stuff is so bad they are willing to threaten and bully payment processors even if it ends in harming narratives that express the feelings caused by abuse or LGBT stories. That isn't supporting women in the least unless you mean a very narrow slice of women who have decided to blame harmful things on media when those harmful things existed long before media. We can talk about how to educate people so they don't think media reflects reality or take bad lessons due to consuming it uncritically, but the second you tell me that media sold to an adult is the actual cause of abuse and we need to censor it because doing so will stop abuse you have lost the plot. Regarding everything else, I am happy about a lot of these announcements! I have been meaning to play Octopath Traveler forever and the new one looks so good. I probably won't get it at launch but I do want to pick up the others on sale when I can and eventually play it for sure. I am also excited about The Adventures of Elliot. I immediately thought of the Mana series and I love it has light co-op! My boyfriend loves watching me play long games but doesn't want to have to keep up with everything I want to do, so co-op like this and the one in Bananza are perfect for us! There are a few other games I was mildly excited for but the biggest one has to be the new Katamari, Once Upon a Katamari which seems like an incredible jump for the series. I have always loved the series but it struggled to evolve past the first two. There are new gimmicks and fun bits to encourage playing the sequels, but much of the setting and even some the levels were recycled constantly. "Rolling through time" may be a relatively simple concept, but it looks like we are getting an entirely new series of worlds and levels! This has not happened since the PS2 to my knowledge, so I am sure I am going to love having all these new environments. ...Also I guess I could try something new, didn't have anything on the metaphorical slate but I will try to figure something out, trying new things is always a good reminder to have. |
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AiddonValentine
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Ah, last minute Directs to make Jean-Karlo go "Oh goddammit." Anyway, to the task at hand.
-Horizon: All I have to say to Tencent is "You brought that upon yourself." -Mario Paint: Ah, nothing like drawing old art masterpieces in crunchy SNES resolution -Mastercard/Visa: As we've said before, this stuff is absolutely stupid and just done by a bunch of whiny people who can't stand porn and LGBTQ people existing. And the fact that payment processors blink so quickly is just pathetic. What happens between two consenting adults is none of their business, and this "protecting the children" crap is stupid because they all know that minors can't own credit cards. Mastercard has released a statement, but it's clearly more of "Please stop talking about this, PLEEEEEASE" pleading than anything. Keep bugging them -Monster Hunter Stories: Ah, good to see the adventures continue. And we get to see some monsters from Rise, like Magnamalo. -Once Upon a Katamari: -Rolls Katamari into unsuspecting objects- -Hyrule Warriors: Ya mean collaboration between Nintendo and Koei-Tecmo, right? Anyway, interesting how the collabs continue to be a testing lab for new mechanics in Warriors because the specials seem to be different depending on pairups. Also interesting that this is NOT being done by Omega Force, but it's the first game by Koei-Tecmo's new AAA Studio which is being headed by Yosuke Hayashi -Octopath 0: This one is interesting because it's actually the mobile game, Champions of the Continent, but reworked into a console format. Not gonna lie, that's not a bad idea for a lot of mobile gacha games. Stuff that's been running for a few years with enough content should probably look into that because I can't see why not. -Adventures of Elliot: Checked out the demo for this and it's almost like SqEx decided to do a Zelda clone (not helped by the bombs and arrows being weapons with roughly the same applications). So far has a pretty solid set up with more of an action-adventure bent than an RPG where you explore the world and find new tools and trinkets. Definitely keeping an eye on this one |
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Dancing Green
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This is sounding dangerously close to a "no true Scotsman" post where you're trying to deny them from calling themselves feminists because they disagree with you on certain aspects.. I hope this isn't the case and we're not trying to gatekeep feminism. Side note but David Cage games have been hated by these kinds of groups for ages. David Cage is often criticized for how he writes and treats women both in his games and at his studios. Detroit Become Human isn't any different. The whole payment processor situation has become annoying and a lot of bad faith people are jumping in to capitalize on it The Mouthwashing dev lying was bad and I'm pretty sure half the posts I've seen about how people epically owned the minimum wage Mastercard customer service rep on the phone are fake and just engagement farming as well. I just wonder how many people are going to stick around once they feel their own brand of stuff isn't in danger anymore. It's weird to see people who once advocated for games to be banned weighing in on this and I'm just waiting for the next part of this where people go right back to wanting games they don't like being censored or banned once they know their own stuff is safe. |
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Greed1914
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The progression of what is going on with payment processors and retailers has proven that the slippery slope arguments are no exaggeration. Japanese businesses closed shop because of this, and it didn't get much attention. It was easy for people to tell themselves it was just "that type" of game on some website they've never used or heard of before. But, it didn't stop because why would it? Now that it hit the de facto place to buy almost any PC game, people couldn't ignore it, and at least aren't so naive to think that this is job done for Collective Shout.
It's also interesting that the credit card companies are shifting to deflecting the blame. Now, they're responding to customers by saying it isn't them that is doing it because the "payment processors" are some unnamed companies involved as middle men between them and the stores. Even if that is the case, I don't believe for a second that those middle men would suddenly stop if one or both sides of the transactions didn't say so. Throw in that Collective Shout has named Visa, Mastercard, Itch, and Steam as companies to pressure into this, and it's pretty hard to take any of that seriously. Last edited by Greed1914 on Fri Aug 01, 2025 1:49 pm; edited 1 time in total |
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b-dragon
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Octopath 0 is really interesting conceptually...and I'm interested in actually playing it. Thats rare for me. But reworking and reselling the gacha, as a full game (especially when the gacha hasn't hit EOS yet,) is pretty unusual. Hopefully it does well and catches on; there are quite a few games I've been intrigued by only to bail on them due to the gacha structure.
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AiddonValentine
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This is nothing of the sort, it's just reinforcing the actual code of human rights: if you aren't all of them, you are none of them. You can't be a feminist and be racist. You can't be a feminist and be transphobic. You can't be a feminist and be homophobic. You can't be a feminist and be against porn. The second you start flirting with ideologies that attack human rights such as freedom of expression, you have rescinded any right to be called a feminist. It's also just how much ideologies evolved. Early feminism absolutely left out lesbians, women of color, trans women, and sex workers but that was left behind as thing changed to not only include but realize the past views were wrong and in fact only helped drive wedges in coalitions to play them off each other. Collective Shout aren't allies of any sort, they just use the term without believing in it to get away with their abuse and bigotry. Last edited by AiddonValentine on Fri Aug 15, 2025 6:50 pm; edited 1 time in total |
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Silver Kirin
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- Sony vs. Tencent: I never had any interest in the Horizon games, I was surprised to know that the series has managed to sell over 30 million units, but I never hear people disussing the games, though maybe it's one of those things that doesn't seem big on the Internet but are actually pretty popular, I guess that may be the reason why Tecent decided to make such an obvious copy, I mean, just by looking at the promo art for Light of Motiram you could mistake it for a Horizon spin-off or DLC. Surprisingly, or maybe not so much, I haven't seen many people talking about this lawsuit, and those that do seem to be more on Tencent's side, maybe because some people don't like Horizon for some reason, and there seem to be others who are taking a similar stance with what happened between Nintendo and The Pokémon Company vs. Palworld, but I don't think anyone could honestly say that Tencent is a small company that needs our help or something.
- Mario Paint: while I didn't grow up with the Super NES, I remember playing Mario Paint, and while it was very limited compared to other art programs that I used before, it had enough stuff to keep me entertained. I also had some old issues of the Latin American official Nintendo magazine that had an article focusing on Mario Paint that included a song which was meant to be the magazine's official theme tune and I tried to replicate it and it didn't sound half bad. - Nintendo Partner Direct: I honestly didn't expect much from the presentation, I had the impression that they weren't going to show that much in just 25 minutes, and while I though what they showed was fine the reactions I saw in some Internet forums was another story. Don't know if people are completely sure that Nintendo fans are some of the most obsessive, and while I'm just talking as a casual observer that doesn't own any modern game console, but people were complaining non-stop whether or not Nintendo was going to show something substantial before the previous month ended, since many are feeling like the Switch 2 doesn't have any games for the rest of the year and that Nintendo should show something inmediatly or the Switch 2 will end up like the WiiU (which is funny considering Nintendo's fiscal report just arrived early this day) The fact that the Direct focused on third-party titles didn't help, given that I believe that some hyped themselves, particularly due to "insiders" claims that the Switch 2 would receive tons of third-party ports and new games, and while I believe that'll see some major games for the Switch 2 in the future, I still believe that the console is still in its early days and the support will also vary depending on the publisher/developer. Though I agree that most of the stuff showed on the Direct wasn't that impressive, at least in the technical sense. |
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TheRealMaria
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Personally I hope Sony loses their lawsuit because Light of Motiram looks a lot better than Horizon does in terms of character design and presentation. At least Tencent has the money to fight Sony so this isn't an industry giant picking on an indie game company. Not a fan of this trend of companies using the legal system to attack their competitors though.
I hate that Collective Shout has become the current boogeyman with people because this just helps other companies like Nintendo and Steam be absolved of any wrongdoing. A game that Nintendo blocked from western release but is available on Steam like Prison Princess Trapped Allure is because Nintendo did not want it (confirmed by eastasiasoft themselves). A game game being banned on Steam AND Nintendo like Tokyo Clanpool but is available on GOG is because both Steam and Nintendo did not want it. No credit card companies or feminist group to blame in those cases. Steam and Nintendo have been ban happy on ecchi content long before current events. And that's not even getting into their western releases that do happen but are heavily censored so are those even victories worth being proud of at that point? |
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That sounds like very interesting combat gameplay indeed. |
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FishLion
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I am not trying to gate keep feminism as a label, I am saying as an avowed feminist silencing a piece of art that explores or exposes the harm done through sexual violence is an anti-women act. I am saying not all feminists believe the same things in and I am not trying to take their feminism card or whatever, but I am saying that I hate when people say "I'm a feminist!" and then do something to silence women's voices and experiences. I will always think those people aren't acting according to feminist principles proper but their own twisted interpretation, but I never made the claim in my comment that they weren't real feminists, I simply said that when you dedicate your life to censoring art because you think art is causing misogyny directly and censoring enough art will eradicate it you have lost the plot.
I hear this every time censorship comes up and I have literally never seen it outside of weird people on algorithmic media that pushes rapid people to the top. This is actually why I was complaining about them calling themselves feminist, because some weirdo in Australia gets games I like banned and then somehow I get blamed. I don't think most people here believe art causes misogyny itself, we may criticize the ideas reflected in the work through a feminist lens but I have literally never seen anyone call for censorship in a forum or in person. Again, just weirdos on social media. |
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FishLion
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Not to be the fisherman scraping my nails on the chalkboard, but I noticed that evangelical groups that sued VISA back in the day and that the group behind it, NCOSE, was trying to harm porn by attacking the payment processor instead of PornHub. You see, PornHub is protected by a section of bill that means they can't be held liable for what someone posts. So when illegal content was found, NCOSE reported it VISA and said illegal stuff is happening here you have to stop it. Whatever VISA did to stop them didn't stop the illegal content, so NCOSE sued VISA on behalf of the victims to hold them liable for the illegal content on PornHub. The lawsuit was successful and VISA was held to extremely large damages for profiting from illegal content. NCOSE says they are about reducing exploitation, but they are a rebrand of an organization that was against gay marriage and sex toys. In other words, on their face they claim child and women safety is their goal but considering that a major part of Project 2025 said they were using child safety and ID laws to push porn bans it's even more suspicious with their anti-sex and censorship history. I personally believe this gave way to modern payment processor strategies for people trying to ban porn. The activists on the feminist and evangelical sides of anti-porn groups realized that if they harassed VISA and Mastercard enough they could stop the porn for them. So these groups carry out attention campaigns were they bug these companies about the harms the products cause and how they will report them if they don't shape up. I had assumed that's what happened to several major Japanese adult sites but couldn't find a group taking credit as NCOSE usually does. Then this happened, lo and behold the group claiming responsibility with Collective Shout is NCOSE! The same people that sued VISA and harass tech companies every year to restrict access to adult content were part of this drive to ban games! I still don't know if they were the direct cause of the Japanese websites shutting down, but I do know they lead to this environment and they definitely want to restrict content further than only "extreme" stuff. This is way worse any individual company deciding to what to sell because it affects what all companies are allowed to do, even if we are mad about changes in a game or what can be sold DLSite could still sell it and they are trying to take it away from everywhere by threatening the money directly. Nobody should fool themselves into being confused why people are much more upset about an outside entity choosing what companies are allowed to sell versus a company choosing what it wants to put on it's storefront. Anyway, rant over, I just became deeply interested in this because I wondered why they were taking down so much adult content recently. |
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FinalVentCard
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It depends on how much you like open-world action games. Keep your eyes peeled in the next few days, is all I'll say.
This is me being pedantic because, like... yeah, The Adventures of Elliot totally has Zelda DNA in it. But also, there's a lot of the old Ys and Mana games in here. Nevermind that Zelda's origins lie with Ys and Tower of Druaga, but combat in Elliot also has its own twists with the emphasis on using charge attacks (for example, charging your sword strikes to shoot out shockwaves, charging arrow shots to shoot out multi-arrow volleys). There's also a good deal of tech involved, like with throwing bombs (timing it so enemies get hit by both the bomb itself and the explosion). But this is the kind of thing that requires people at least be aware that Ys and Tower of Druaga exists, and that part of the conversation never gets brought up with regards to Zelda's history.
You're right on the money. Horizon is something like Avatar where us "in-the-weeds" folks don't think much of it but it holds more appeal among the Jo Q. Publics of the gaming world. People who don't normally pick up, say, a Zelda or an Elden Ring. Sony also alleges that Tencent had approached them multiple times in an attempt at acquiring the Horizon license, and even tried approaching them after Light of Motiram had been announced in an attempt at seeing if they could retroactively add the license ("We already made it, so you might as well...").
This is one of those things that makes me rub my forehead. Like, it's a Partner Direct, of course it's gonna be third-party titles. The third-party titles people won't stop bellyaching that Nintendo "doesn't have enough of." Like, I hate sounding so much like I stan for Nintendo because I do hold them to task for their bad decisions, but Nintendo just can't win. The only "good" decision people wanna see out of the company is for it to go bankrupt!
Yeah, and we know they're full of it because there are receipts of their direct involvement on getting games banned from Steam.
You're stemming from a lot of misconceptions here, so let me straighten those out. First: I can vouch that this isn't just people engagement farming: I have a lot of friends who I know for a fact have been involved in calling payment processors over this, and we have tangible proof that Visa and Mastercard are dealing with calls en masse. Second: this isn't about people worrying about "their own brand" of stuff. I know it's hard because Japanese games have gotten a lot of crap over the years (I know, I like Japanese games), but people criticizing Dragon's Crown's sorceress for having huge knockers doesn't mean people were trying to ban Dragon's Crown. Be serious. There's your game getting bad reviews for being a mediocre game overloaded with titilation, and there's your game getting delisted. We've spoken against Japanese games getting delisted on Steam in the past like Chaos;Head and Dungeon Traveler 2, and we'll continue to do so in the future, same as we'll speak in defense of erotic games. What we're not going to do is engage in bad faith arguments about vagina bones, thanks. I was there. I'm an Izuna fan, remember? |
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AiddonValentine
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Well, it's also kinda weird to talk about the Zelda-Ys influences because Zelda was out a full year before the first Ys on the PC so one influence begins and ends is an anthropological exercise. Still, I can definitely see influence there. The little range tricks you can do with the kusarigama are neat, the weapons all have different applications in battle, and Faie's abilities add some neat traversal options. I hope they add some more complex puzzle tricks because I'm always up for dungeon diving |
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