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AiddonValentine
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Posted: Fri Jun 05, 2026 6:21 pm |
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"Revelation"
Man, that is one weightless subtitle. Maybe they shouldn't have stuck to "Re" words. Also gonna be awkward considering Sakurai's nonsense
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Arale Kurashiki
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Posted: Fri Jun 05, 2026 6:26 pm |
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The apocalyptic ending of the Bible is "weightless" to you...?
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EmeraldSaucer
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Posted: Fri Jun 05, 2026 6:38 pm |
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Looks good (and importantly, very iterative on Rebirth rather than trying to do something hugely different). Adding in a job system is an especially fun idea
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Silver Kirin
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Posted: Fri Jun 05, 2026 6:48 pm |
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Revelations is kind of boring subtitle, but it works, I believe most people wanted Part 3 to be called Reunion, but Crisis Core's remaster used it first.
I actually find it kind of funny that when Final Fantasy VII Remake came out there were journalists claiming that Square-Enix and Sony had an exclusivity agreement in regards to the entire trilogy, not, perhaps some things changed in the last few years when S-E announced an internal restructuring and a focus on multiplatform releases, but some were saying that Part 3 was going to be exclusive for the PS5 at least for a couple of months or maybe even a year, but here we are, it's incredible how things changed in less than a decade
Now that I think about it, is this the first new mainline FF game to be released on a Nintendo console after more than 30 years? I mean, it's technically the third part of a remake series, but it seems S-E treats each game in the FFVII Remake Project as a mainline entry with equal importance to the numbered titles. But if that were the case I don't know if I should count FFIII and IV remakes on the DS.
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Kurohei
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Posted: Fri Jun 05, 2026 6:51 pm |
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The promise was made 10 years ago. And just one more year for it to be fulfilled. What a ride its been.
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Riku157
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Posted: Fri Jun 05, 2026 7:15 pm |
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Most anticipated game next year for me. With the job system a new game+ might be even more enjoyable if I find 2+ jobs that I really enjoy per character.
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DTM108
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Posted: Fri Jun 05, 2026 7:39 pm |
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I remember being so excited when the FFVII Remake was announced back in 2015. After Final Fantasy 13 had made me cynical about the franchise, I couldn't wait to be re-energized by a graphical and mechanical update of my favorite video game.
Then, I finished Remake and realized I hadn't been cynical enough. The story, the reason why FFVII is remembered so fondly, had been modified and messed with in fundamental ways that tarnished my nostalgia for the original. Everything that I'd come to dislike about Japanese media (unrealistic emotional responses, important story beats denied any kind of reverence, totally ambiguous and nonsensical dialogue, and more) had taken over the experience.
What the FFVII Remake trilogy has taught me is to not invest even a modicum of your personality into a fandom, as you do not control the product in any way and your admiration is pointless, and often mocked by reboots, lore expansions, and cash grabs. Everyone should constantly be writing, learning, and creating their own stories, because what's popular today is only a few years away from being diluted trash.
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BadNewsBlues
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Posted: Fri Jun 05, 2026 7:50 pm |
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| DTM108 wrote: | | and your admiration is pointless, and often mocked, by reboots, lore expansions, and cash grabs. Everyone should be constantly be writing, learning, and creating their own stories, because what's popular today is only a few years away from being diluted trash. |
Fans more often than not get mocked because they tend to overreact negatively to things only they don’t like or offer up the shittiest takes about things that too often they treat as objective fact instead of personal opinion.
When one of the most absurd criticisms of the remake was Tifa not having big breasts when everything else about her character was seemingly left intact you know people were on some nonsense.
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AiddonValentine
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Posted: Fri Jun 05, 2026 8:24 pm |
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| Arale Kurashiki wrote: | | The apocalyptic ending of the Bible is "weightless" to you...? |
After it's been turned into one of the "Generic Subtitles", yes
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Doubleclouder
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Posted: Fri Jun 05, 2026 10:46 pm |
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| DTM108 wrote: | | What the FFVII Remake trilogy has taught me is to not invest even a modicum of your personality into a fandom, as you do not control the product in any way and your admiration is pointless, and often mocked by reboots, lore expansions, and cash grabs. Everyone should constantly be writing, learning, and creating their own stories, because what's popular today is only a few years away from being diluted trash. |
"Fandom" as a whole is pointless since it encompasses so many different people. Generally it's best to just talk about stuff among your friends. All my friends grew up with FF7. Some dislike the remakes, some like them but still prefer the original, some absolutely hate them... But the common thread among us is we all grew up with the original so that's generally the "community" I care about since we're all iikeminded If I had to say a specific community I enjoy it's the 'retro game community' more than the game community as a whole. The people who grew up with NES to PS2 era specifically and are knowledgable about titles form those era
In general remake culture is certainly an issue and it will be interesting to see what happens when every piece of media is just a remake of older media and it's a new cycle and pop culture stagnates as a result. I do think people who love the current version or remakes of things will have their own moment when their preferred version becomes "old" after a decade and a new version comes out and then they will have to deal with the fact their preferred version is no longer relevant and their complaints are dismissed as nonsense because newer is always better. As you alluded to all current current media is only a certain period of time away from being outdated itself. It's not a question of if ...just when
For FF7 specifically.. I only played the first Remake and decided it wasn't for me. All I know about Rebirth is from what I've heard of people and seen clips of. I do wonder how much they'll change for the final chapter and if the ending is at all metanarrative or subversive to the hints I saw from the first game.
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Fluwm
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Posted: Fri Jun 05, 2026 10:55 pm |
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Can't say I've been a fan of the story they've been telling with these games, but the actual worlds are so gorgeous to explore, the characterization is pretty fantastic, and the combat a lot of fun.
I wonder if maybe seeing the whole story "finished" will make me think any better of it? It'll certainly make all the padding easier to forgive. (You can be damned sure I laughed aloud when that trailer boasted about it being their biggest game world yet, after years of people complaining about Rebirth being filled with way too much unnecessary and not-terribly-compelling filler content.)
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BadNewsBlues
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Posted: Fri Jun 05, 2026 11:00 pm |
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| Doubleclouder wrote: | | In general remake culture is certainly an issue and it will be interesting to see what happens when every piece of media is just a remake of older media and it's a new cycle and pop culture stagnates as a result. |
This is pretty much where media has been for the last 30-40 years if not longer.
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Flared
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Posted: Sat Jun 06, 2026 7:26 am |
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| Fluwm wrote: | | Can't say I've been a fan of the story they've been telling with these games, but the actual worlds are so gorgeous to explore, the characterization is pretty fantastic, and the combat a lot of fun.
I wonder if maybe seeing the whole story "finished" will make me think any better of it? It'll certainly make all the padding easier to forgive. (You can be damned sure I laughed aloud when that trailer boasted about it being their biggest game world yet, after years of people complaining about Rebirth being filled with way too much unnecessary and not-terribly-compelling filler content.) |
Same. How they've been messing with the story is not something I can say I've liked, but the love put into the presentation, gameplay and characters is clear to see. The most enjoyment I get from the remake series is seeing those pre-rendered backgrounds with polygon characters I saw as a child in the late 90s brought to life as beautiful expansive areas with modern graphics & tech.
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R. Kasahara
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Posted: Sat Jun 06, 2026 7:26 am |
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| DTM108 wrote: | | The story, the reason why FFVII is remembered so fondly, had been modified and messed with in fundamental ways that tarnished my nostalgia for the original. |
This is why I never picked up any of these Re games to begin with: because I had gone through something similar with the Compilation of FFVII. The writer on those projects being the same, I knew that I would hate the Re games if I played them, and decided to make better use of my time elsewhere. And, for the record, I am someone who has strong and important memories tied to FFVII, the biggest one being: if it wasn't for that game, I wouldn't have met my spouse.
I do think that what you went through with these games is an issue with that one specific writer (who also wrote the original FFVII) rather than pop media as a whole. Paying attention to the writers of media like games and anime has been beneficial to me; at the very least, it helps me know what to be excited about and what to avoid.
I hope you're in a happier place now. One does have to have a healthy relationship to fandom, yeah.
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Arale Kurashiki
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Posted: Sat Jun 06, 2026 2:53 pm |
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Changing the story is the best thing they could possibly do because it strongly justifies why they would spend a decade and millions upon millions of dollars on a ""remake"" instead of any one of the surely innumerable other Square games that have been pitched and shot down or held off on. "a game you can already play recreated to the letter, but hyperrealistic and modern" is not only an uninteresting premise, it's actively a waste of the staff member's time to make. So as far as I'm concerned they should change the story as much as possible. I know this position of mine isn't popular, but I think it will win out in a time when less people define themselves as consumers first and foremost.
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