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LightYagami



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PostPosted: Fri Feb 20, 2009 2:53 am Reply with quote
I'll take a stab an next weeks hey answer fans "Fillers" in anime series based off of a manga. nuff said.
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Mysticmidnightmaiden



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PostPosted: Fri Feb 20, 2009 3:07 am Reply with quote
LightYagami wrote:
I'll take a stab an next weeks hey answer fans "Fillers" in anime series based off of a manga. nuff said.

Be careful generalizing there. The first run of FMA ended in filler and it worked out fine to me. Ouran ended in a filler so as to not nosedive straight into what it parodied (which unfortunately happens in the manga). BONES, which animated both series, is fairly good at adapting filler and canon material to create a better series overall.

I'll go out on a limb here and fix Naruto. Kill Sasuke. Granted, that's like taking Kira Yamato out of the SEED Destiny season (WHICH NEVER HAPPENED, of course), but it's a start.
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Greed1914
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 20, 2009 3:42 am Reply with quote
The response to the Flake was fantastic, it's what I would have done. As far as renting Anime: I too have a Netflix account primarily for the purpose of renting anime and trying to help drive a company with a deeper wallet than mine to inject more money into the industry. I see it as a practically ideal method, too. I try out the shows that I want for a reasonable price, and then choose the ones to buy from that. Finally, I'm fairly indifferent to anime being called cartoons. That's what they are in the purest sense. Sometimes I do get a little upset if I feel that somebody is calling them cartoons out of ignorance or to belittle the art form, but largely I don't see a problem.
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dtm42



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PostPosted: Fri Feb 20, 2009 3:45 am Reply with quote
That was the Flake? That was the best you could come up with? Jeez, that's harsh, lumping that sort of request in with all the horrible ones that actually deserve to be called Flakes.

As to the latest question, the Anime is Gasaraki, and I would remove most (if not all) of the traditional Japanese Shinto references. It severely dragged down an otherwise outstanding "hard" Mecha series. I know that the mysticism made up half (if not more) of the show, but the question is vague enough that I think I am okay.
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GATSU



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PostPosted: Fri Feb 20, 2009 3:57 am Reply with quote
Actually, you really should be careful, when renting from brick-and-mortar stores, since they occasionally sneak in bootlegs in the inventory.
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Kenotic



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PostPosted: Fri Feb 20, 2009 4:01 am Reply with quote
LightYagami wrote:
I'll take a stab an next weeks hey answer fans "Fillers" in anime series based off of a manga. nuff said.


It's never "Nuff Said" when you don't bother to explain what you mean -- not everyone is familiar with every series that created new scenarios that deviated from the Manga. From what I've seen of various series and forum responses, "Filler" can mean meandering, plotless sagas that look exactly like earlier episodes or "all of that annoying character development and plot before the fanservice and explosions and big robots show up." I say all of this as someone who has never watched more than the first DVD set of Naruto and a few of the new series episodes.

As for Netflix and other rental shops, they're the best thing for someone trying to watch a lot of series legally. A local shop has 2-for-1 rentals on Sunday, which made for a great way to survive the cold winters in Minnesota.
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giascle



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PostPosted: Fri Feb 20, 2009 4:10 am Reply with quote
As amazing as some anime may be, they are always cartoons. Waltz with Bashir is a very poor example, as it was rotoscoped off a live-action video, and is almost a documentary.
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Generic #757858



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PostPosted: Fri Feb 20, 2009 4:12 am Reply with quote
dtm42 wrote:
As to the latest question, the Anime is Gasaraki, and I would remove most (if not all) of the traditional Japanese Shinto references. It severely dragged down an otherwise outstanding "hard" Mecha series. I know that the mysticism made up half (if not more) of the show, but the question is vague enough that I think I am okay.


QFT

Me, I'd fix Beck by making all the characters about three years older. It always bothered me that they were so young, particularly since most of them even looked older too.
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zanarkand princess



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PostPosted: Fri Feb 20, 2009 4:19 am Reply with quote
I would fix Zegapain by taking the mecha out. Honestly that show would be way better with out it.

I would fix Code Geass by cutting the fanservice in R2 by about half and spoiler[I would keep Lelouch alive ]

and since I just saw it I would reverse the ending of Paradise Kiss.

Oh and I knew I was right about FUNi dubbing songs just because they want to.
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enurtsol



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PostPosted: Fri Feb 20, 2009 4:41 am Reply with quote
Answerman Brian Hanson wrote:

So in essence, I personally hate it when people get uppity when I talk about “Japanese cartoons” to refer to anime at large, but I sympathize with those who cringe a bit when people refer to the latest Hayao Miyazaki “cartoon.” However by and large this is kind of a pointless argument that's been done to death over the years starting way, way back on the old rec.arts.anime.misc Usenet boards by nerds with nothing better to do with their lives....


SCREW YOU, Hanson!!! Evil or Very Mad

(Kidding. I actually take your view on this. Laughing )


And yeah, dubbing theme songs go way back, even used to be expected. Then, as I mentioned, the Japanese music groups wised up (that they could get royalty out of it, that the music fee should be separate from the anime license fee).

But there were anime CDs released in the US. At one time, Sam Goody's, FYE, et al. even had racks-full of 'em in their own anime soundtracks section, including dub CDs like Pioneer Animation Best of Best.
(But then, the boom crashed, and I guess anime CD sales weren't that good.)


giascle wrote:
As amazing as some anime may be, they are always cartoons. Waltz with Bashir is a very poor example, as it was rotoscoped off a live-action video, and is almost a documentary.


I was just about to say, like A Scanner Darkly, some don't consider it "true animation." Laughing
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Dop.L



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PostPosted: Fri Feb 20, 2009 6:21 am Reply with quote
The problem with the use of the word 'cartoon' is association. That word is associated pretty much exclusively with entertainment for children.

And while there's plenty of anime that fits that bill, there's also plenty that doesn't - and I'm not just talking the more ecchi stuff.
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Northlander



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PostPosted: Fri Feb 20, 2009 7:03 am Reply with quote
I've got a very specific thing I would have liked seen changed. It's a very small change, trifling even, but it's one where I just can't figure out why they made the scene like it is.

The show is Haibane Renmei. The scene is late in the show. Rakka is talking with Hyoko and Midori about what to do with Reki, and Midori is extolling the virtues -- or lack thereof -- of Reki's dealings with Hyoko and the whole episode with the wall. This prompts a reaction from Rakka, staged with a quick, nearly epileptic edit of at least five different quick-cuts of Rakka's head whipping up, and it left me wondering what the hell they did THAT for in a show that otherwise set a gentle, if somewhat emotically draining at times, mood.

Haibane Renmei is my favorite anime, but that one scene always, ALWAYS makes me cringe when I see it.
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Ta-kun The Black Kitty



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PostPosted: Fri Feb 20, 2009 8:02 am Reply with quote
Sorry to be a bother, Brian, but it's Mignogna, not Mognagna. Anime catgrin + sweatdrop

(I doubt this will be noticed, though)
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CorneredAngel



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PostPosted: Fri Feb 20, 2009 8:47 am Reply with quote
Will companies like funimation ever release a CD of the dubbed music, maybe along with the original japanese songs

Cue back to - oh, just about ten years now - and Pioneer's Tenchi Muyo OVA Best v. 2. Which did contain a bunch of the dubbed songs from that series. Ah, those were the days...
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The Ramblin' Wreck



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PostPosted: Fri Feb 20, 2009 9:46 am Reply with quote
CorneredAngel wrote:
Will companies like funimation ever release a CD of the dubbed music, maybe along with the original japanese songs

Cue back to - oh, just about ten years now - and Pioneer's Tenchi Muyo OVA Best v. 2. Which did contain a bunch of the dubbed songs from that series. Ah, those were the days...


That CD would be worth it just to make a karaoke track to "I Am A Pioneer".
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