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Thanatos01s2



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PostPosted: Fri Dec 23, 2005 1:30 am Reply with quote
Ya I was just curious and I figured this was the best place to ask. For example Kenshin from Rurouni kenshin is Richard Hayworth, yet in mirage of blaze he goes by the name Edward villa. So what's up?
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DKL



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PostPosted: Fri Dec 23, 2005 2:37 am Reply with quote
Something about the SCREEN-ACTOR'S GUILD... like, they can't do non-union work, so to get around this, they go under aliases to act in shows that have non-union dubs *there are so many... sometimes, I don't even know which are the actual names and which are the aliases*

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someone can probably come up with a more detailed explanation than this, but I think this is the gist of it... at least, I think so anyway
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Thanatos01s2



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PostPosted: Fri Dec 23, 2005 7:12 pm Reply with quote
Cool, thats a good enough explanation for me, thanks
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Tetsujin



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PostPosted: Sat Dec 24, 2005 8:09 pm Reply with quote
DKL wrote:
Something about the SCREEN-ACTOR'S GUILD... like, they can't do non-union work, so to get around this, they go under aliases to act in shows that have non-union dubs


I've heard this, too, DKL. I recall reading about that here when I was asking about a certain voice actor (whose identity I will protect for some irrational reason).
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Kazuki-san



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PostPosted: Sat Dec 24, 2005 10:58 pm Reply with quote
Yes, that's absolutely correct. What it boils down to, is that VA jobs often do not pay up to union minimum levels. Accepting non-union work violates the number 1 rule of SAG:

SAG FAQ wrote:
Will I be required to accept only union work once I join SAG?

Yes. You must be ready and willing to follow SAG’s rules and regulations and to accept ONLY union employment once you become a member of SAG.

First and foremost of all the SAG rules is RULE ONE. It is the foundation of SAG's strength in protecting and representing its members. RULE ONE states:

"No SAG member shall work as an actor or make an agreement to work as an actor for any producer who has not executed a basic minimum agreement with the Guild which is in full force and effect."

Does this mean that once I become a SAG member I may not accept ANY non-union performing work to supplement my income?

Yes it does!
# SAG members cannot accept an acting role in any studio, independent, low-budget, pilot, experimental, non-profit, interactive, educational, student, or ANY production, unless that producer has signed a Contract or Letter of Agreement with the Screen Actors Guild.
# In addition, by joining the Screen Actors Guild, members also agree to abide by Rule 9, which states that members of one of the Four A performers' unions (SAG, AFTRA, Equity, AGVA, AGMA) will not accept non-union work in another union's jurisdiction.

What happens if I accept non-union work?

When a new member signs an application to join the Screen Actors Guild, he/she is agreeing from that point forward to abide by all the rules and regulations of Screen Actors Guild. Our Constitution and By-Laws not only spells out members rights as a professional, union performer, but also specifies members responsibilities and obligations. Members who are found in violation of these rules are subject to serious fines and discipline by a panel of union peers


Yes, most of the time actors who use stage names are quite recognizable by voice, but there is little the union can do, since they are not actually credited with the role (with their real name).
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OTP



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PostPosted: Sat Dec 24, 2005 11:33 pm Reply with quote
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Members who are found in violation of these rules are subject to serious fines and discipline by a panel of union peers


What kind of discipline would they get (fines aside)? Do they get thrown out of SAG temporarily or something?
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Kazuki-san



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PostPosted: Sun Dec 25, 2005 12:05 am Reply with quote
OTP wrote:

What kind of discipline would they get (fines aside)? Do they get thrown out of SAG temporarily or something?


The fines themselves are a pretty big issue. These aren't small little fines like we pay for traffic tickets. For instance, Tiger Woods has been fined $100,000 by SAG before (Specifically for engaging in non-union work). Not a great deal of money to him, but to someone who'd be doing regular VA work, you bet it is. Yes you can be suspended from, and/or expulsed from, SAG. At that point you're pretty much screwed out of gaining work with any company that has a SAG contract.
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Tetsujin



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PostPosted: Sun Dec 25, 2005 2:50 pm Reply with quote
I recall the incident surrounding Tiger Woods. He wasn't even aware that he was defaulted into SAG when he decided to do voice work or commercials or whatever he was doing at the time. As far as he was concerned, it was just another gig. He didn't realize that by agreeing to do that work he was implicitly joining the union (and, therefore, subjecting himself to union rules). I think this happens to lots of athletes since they don't see themselves as actors.

Even though both people are the same, SAG would only recognize Joe Blow while Joseph Exhale can do whatever non-union work nevertheless looks appealing to him.
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Ktimene's Lover



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PostPosted: Sun Dec 25, 2005 8:10 pm Reply with quote
Stuck-up schmucks those SGA "governors". Several ones don't go by aliases: Steven Blum, Johhny Bosch, Mona Marshall, Lara Miller, and Lex Lang (though he may simply break this a bit by going by either first or full middle: Walter Alexis. Though latter makes him be credited as almost feminine.).
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samuraiwalt



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PostPosted: Mon Dec 26, 2005 9:59 am Reply with quote
Ctimene's Lover wrote:
Several ones don't go by aliases: Steven Blum, Johhny Bosch, Mona Marshall, Lara Miller, and Lex Lang (though he may simply break this a bit by going by either first or full middle: Walter Alexis. Though latter makes him be credited as almost feminine.).

Actually Steven Blum has several aliases. What I’ve always wondered is how Steven Blum cashes his David Lucas paychecks.
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Tetsujin



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PostPosted: Mon Dec 26, 2005 3:49 pm Reply with quote
samuraiwalt wrote:
Ctimene's Lover wrote:
Several ones don't go by aliases: Steven Blum, Johhny Bosch, Mona Marshall, Lara Miller, and Lex Lang (though he may simply break this a bit by going by either first or full middle: Walter Alexis. Though latter makes him be credited as almost feminine.).

Actually Steven Blum has several aliases. What I’ve always wondered is how Steven Blum cashes his David Lucas paychecks.


Samuraiwalt is correct. Steven (Jay) Blum also goes by the alias David Lucas. I learned this from another poster in these very forums, and I verified this by viewing ANN content concerning "both" actors.

I can't say anything about the other voice actors mentioned, but I know that Steven Blum and David Lucas are the same actor.
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TheVileOne



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PostPosted: Mon Dec 26, 2005 5:27 pm Reply with quote
Not sure if we should be talking about this here and if it puts any of the actors at risk. Over on dub review they are pretty strict about it.

I think this whole system is silly and the actors should be allowed to work for whoever they want even if they are in a union.

Its just English dubbed anime.
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Kazuki-san



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PostPosted: Mon Dec 26, 2005 8:12 pm Reply with quote
TheVileOne wrote:
Not sure if we should be talking about this here and if it puts any of the actors at risk. Over on dub review they are pretty strict about it.


Most of the "protection" certain sites give VAs, when it comes to aliases, is more of a gesture and/or to maintain good relations with them then for averting any actual "risk" to them. SAG et al don't need to scour the internet forums to learn that Actor X is also Actor Y in non-union appearances. In truth, the sites that would most likely be visited, if there were any, to obtain such information DO list aliases.
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TheVileOne



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PostPosted: Mon Dec 26, 2005 9:01 pm Reply with quote
Kazuki-san wrote:

Most of the "protection" certain sites give VAs, when it comes to aliases, is more of a gesture and/or to maintain good relations with them then for averting any actual "risk" to them. SAG et al don't need to scour the internet forums to learn that Actor X is also Actor Y in non-union appearances. In truth, the sites that would most likely be visited, if there were any, to obtain such information DO list aliases.


That does make sense I suppose. But I was just speaking from experience.
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Kusanagi_Kei



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PostPosted: Sun Jan 01, 2006 12:48 pm Reply with quote
Who has the most aliases in the anime industry? Well I think that would be my #1 favorite, Bridget Hoffman.

I mean look at those aliases! At least 8 aliases for Bridget Hoffman, and who knows she may add more (like she already has been doing over the many years).

Anyone know of any other voice actor/actress who has more aliases than Bridget Hoffman?
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