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Meson



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PostPosted: Wed Jun 18, 2003 3:34 am Reply with quote
If you love anime, as much as I do, you must refrain from talking about any edits that Cartoon Netowrk and the like make to it. Especially before the series aris, and where there was no edits.

The networks and anime company look to us fans to find questionable content for them. If we say it is going to be edited, they will edit it to please us. They all read what we write. No anime site is safe from their ees, not even this one. THey even use Kyle Pope's edit review TO FIND MORE PLACES TO EDIT!

If you don't believe me check this message from teh ToonZone.net guys:

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From William C. Maune

Livingfruitvirus recently made a post on the Adult Swim board which I think can readily be applied to Toonami as well. You can check it out here:

http://forums.toonzone.net/showthre...?threadid=78586

With the latest episodes of Kenshin there has been increased discussion regarding edits to it and other series on Toonami. While we may not see them, the people involved in making decisions involving edits visit the Termite Terrace Trading Post, the TZ Adult Swim board and very likely this board as well. Thus, if you would like to talk about edits that have not occured yet I would respectfully ask that you keep it off this board. Hopefully if edits or problem areas aren't suggested in the first place at least some content may slip through that otherwise may not. Thank you very much.


The discussion can be found at http://forums.toonzone.net/showthread.php?threadid=78591&mode=linear&perpage=20&pagenumber=1

I repeat. If you love anime, keep your ideas and fear about editing and butchering to yourself. DO not give them the means to our demise!
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Former ANN Editor in Chief


Joined: 02 Jan 2002
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 18, 2003 4:59 am Reply with quote
hmm...

In case you can't read it (or missed it):
Matt Wilson wrote:
The fans made a huge outcry praising Kikyo's near-nudity in an Inuyasha episode, so the BS&P snipped parts of it out. THEY NEVER WOULD HAVE DONE IT IF THEY WEREN'T ALERTED TO IT. It was the fans who brought it to their attention, not their own scrutiny, I assure you, 100%.


Matt's statement is troubling, as it seems that CN's BS&P takes a more active role than simply responding to the handful of people who might call in over any given episode.

Read the Kyle Pope Cartoon Network Interview (specifically #9, #21 and #22)

Historically, at least, phone calls and such were more of an indicator as to what potential issues were with a series...

The reason phonecalls were important was because those few people who were so upset that they felt the need to call were representative of a larger set of people who were disgruntled but unable (or uninclined) to call.

.. and with Kikyo's near-nudity in the one episode, I would assume it generated phone calls as well, and THOSE calls were the deciding force, not fan comments. However, there are still times where discussing "non-edits" may, in fact, tip-off BS&P to where they overlooked the first time.

Technically, the Edit Lists probably don't need to include "Not an Edit" entries, since one could assume that everything not on those lists was in the DVD release.

I'm not quite sure where I stand on this point, but it's something that deserves consideration.. and there does appear to be some cause for concern regarding discussion of what's NOT edited. If it's edited already, and someone from BS&P reads it, is it doing any harm telling them what they've already done?

At any rate, the ToonZone board rules were updated to reflect this decision:
Possible edits in upcoming series/anime - DO NOT DISCUSS!!

For a while now, many of us have wondered "Do the CN censors check the internet to see what questionable content occurs in their shows?" (if you go over to TTTP you'll get many answers about those situations.) Well, after what happened in one Inuyasha episode ("Kikyo's Stolen Ashes"), and the editing that occurred in "My Birthday Pursuit" that I'm sure everyone here is aware of, but the similar circumstances that weren't edited in a later episode, we're pretty convinced now that that's EXACTLY what's happening here.


Hmm hmm hmm... Thoughts?
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Ataru



Joined: 04 Jan 2002
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 18, 2003 7:37 am Reply with quote
I thought there nothing wrong with it. There was no flat out nudity, heck, people were also saying that CN censored that part. But it's pretty hard to get born again, IN A ONE PIECE. I can understand the swim suits in Tenchi, but let's face it, when I was born, I wasn't not in boxers. But, I have to give props to CN for last night. The first half of the epiodes wasn't "butchered", it tastfully redone. Who wants to see someone Mom and Dad hanged by some Mummy's henchman, but they did left in the fact that they were hanging.
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