Forum - View topicNEWS: Voice Actor Yūki Kaji Leaves Talent Agency, Starts Own Company
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Kougeru
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It's so disgusting and selfish. So short-sighted. People think this is ok because it's his own voice and pays the artist. That's only ONE problem with AI. In reality, if this is allowed to become normal, it will destroy the voice acting industry globally.
Think about it. What happens if a bunch of famous seiyuu clone their voices with it? They're never overbooked.They accept every role possible. New voice actors can not get roles anymore because of this. The industry becomes flooded with these AI mimics. The industry will die. Kaji has already tested using his crappy AI to make it speak English with his voice, so his goal isn't just the Japanese industry. This would also destroy the English dub industry, and other languages. His only real is make money while doing no work. It's really that simple because that's the goal of all AI - the people who control it make all the money while doing nothing. And everyone else suffers. He was one of my favorite seiyuu. I won't deny this voice acting talent. But this whole AI project showed me he's a really selfish and terrible person
These two parts are almost hilarious. Contradictory to the very use of AI. It's not "expanding" anything as a voice actor, just trying to create less work for himself while hoping to make even more money and taking jobs away from newer actors. And there's no "soul" in AI no matter how he wants to spin it, and there never will be. His entire statement is insulting to humanity, really. |
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Greed1914
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The way he talks about it reminds me of a while back where Troy Baker was so enthusiastic about the same concept since it seemed to do the right things by paying actors for authorized use of their voices. He backpedaled pretty quickly when so many of his colleagues explained to him what it would mean for the industry as a whole. Why take a chance on an up-and-comer or spend to get one of the industry veterans when off-the-shelf Troy Baker existed?
It's the type of thing that stands to work well if you are one of the established talents that companies would want to "purchase." But, if the big names no longer even have to audition to get roles and aren't constrained by things like simple availability, what chance does a new person have? |
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TheRealMaria
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Let's be honest, the real reason he probably backed off was because he got dogpiled on and possibly threatened or intimidated considering how clique-y the American voice acting industry is when it comes to stepping out of line. Since the Japanese voice acting industry isn't like that, they seem to have a lot more freedom to peruse creative projects regardless if uninvolved people voice their unneeded approval. If this works, it works. If this doesn't, it doesn't. But it's nice Japan seems open minded enough to try it. We already have other greats like Masako Nozawa doing stuff like this so it seems promising. |
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Somer-_-
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Seems like kind of a bad idea to show a proof of concept to companies about why your job might not matter soon.
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Nekbone
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I think that would actually be really interesting if we got to the point where the original Japanese seiyuu can voice both the original and the any foreign language dubs of their characters. It would make things a lot more unified and consistent between versions and maybe put to bed the arguments of "actually the English dub is better than the original" if it's the same actor across the board. |
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yeehaw
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This article might be misleading. Soyogi Soyogi is a Cevio AI, a type of voicebank, like a vocaloid. It's not generative AI just like how Hatsune Miku is not generative AI. I think Cevio AI released before generative AI even.
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Slop Slop no Mi
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Does it really matter which kind of AI is used to replace a voice actor? I assume people against that wouldn't care much about the technical difference. |
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fuuma_monou
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Keep telling yourself that. |
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yeehaw
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It's not generative AI is what I'm saying! They're using the word AI because it sounds cool and futuristic! It's just a vocaloid! And I don't know if Kaji Yuuki would replace himself with a vocaloid but I guess that's up to him? I hate generative AI as much as any sane person but Soyogi isn't generative AI. |
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MKVarana
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He got Yui Horie to record audio for one of his apps using this stuff (Happy Rat), and the English sounded nothing like her, in my opinion, so I wouldn't get too excited. (Side Note: From comments on her radio show, it sounds like she only agreed to it because a colleague asked her to, and she was talking like she thought it was for a game, so I'm not sure she thinks of it as the kind of "AI" like we do) |
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Nemu Asahi
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Can it do all the types of voices he can do?
I don't think it can do his acting skills, right? So it's not a problem for anime. It will be used for narration and commercials probably though. I've seen it used for an indie game recently, but I don't remember the name of the game. We'll see how people react. Using it allows to use the name brand of Kaiji san for a product, which I think can be useful for marketing. But AI is shit and I won't pay for anime/manga/game using it. I pay for artists' work. If it's an AI doing the work, then why would I pay for it? It has no value anymore. |
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