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maximilianjenus
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What ,no mention of majisuka gakuen even for gender equality sake?
Girl joins school, she ends up becoming the banchou as she gets involved in the schools power struggles. It has some interesting arcs like other schools getting involved, a juvenile prison arc , a reverse banchou arc where the new generation wants to dethrone her. Its also pretty fun how it shows the consequences of gang life, like a defining factor of one of the gangs is that their previous banchou is dead. When years pass they finish school and go to th real world, so we have one working as a MMA fighter/security guard, another girl becomes a hair stylist, and yet another becomes a prostitute. The acting and choreographies are sub par at the start, which makes it more endearing SD we see the actresses ( the akb48 trope) growing into their roles and improving. |
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Greed1914
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It's interesting how the school gangs end up being something of a school club in terms of how they function, at least in fiction. In addition to the brawls being like sports competitions between schools, you also tend to see characters move on from it when they leave school, just like how third-year students are shown phasing out of clubs as they graduate and leave school behind, and passing them onto the younger members.
In that context, the prospect of the consequences following them afterward makes sense as a powerful disincentive. At some point, they will have to enter the adult world, and nobody is paying for them to smack around rivals. |
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Lord Geo
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The bolded part is so incorrect that it's kind of astonishing, Jerome. The man who created Crows & Worst is NOT the same man who wrote the Ring films, and even the ANN Encyclopedia makes sure that Hiroshi Takahashi (the mangaka) & Hiroshi Takahashi (the screenwriter) aren't confused together. Hell, there's even a third Hiroshi Takahashi who's a voice actor! Anyway, for another title focusing on delinquents (& is actually available officially in Englsh) I will always go to bat for Hareluya II BØY, the 1997 TV anime adaptation of Haruto Umezawa's Shonen Jump manga that's still streaming over at Hidive. It's not quite a 1:1 with some of the other examples Jerome brought up, but it's still very much a delinquent-style series at its core, with even an early example of the "community guardians" touch that Wind Breaker was brought up at having, since the series is all about Hareluya & his friends helping out people either at school or simply in their town, usually by beating up bad guys & other delinquents. |
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kgw
Posts: 1532 Location: Spain, EU |
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No Rokudenashi Blues, ergo, your lists are wrong.
Also, I think gangs, delinquents and bikers are still popular in manga and anime because the people creating them were influenced by those stories when they were young. Or perhaps the trope is so well established that it feels strange not to include such groups. It's like those boys who try to 'hit on' women (or anything wearing a skirt who stays in a place for five seconds) with zero consideration for what the women might think. |
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Joe Mello
Posts: 2557 Location: Online Terminal |
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I wonder if Wind Breakers shares a similar mindset with the most recent Superman film in that one of the best ways to rebel against the modern-day system is to be kind to others.
I'd also argue Kamen Rider Fourze may also have that philosophy, but I also imagine it's primarily in service to throwing as many school tropes as you could into one show. |
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Top Gun
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Thanks for the article! I'm currently watching the Toonami run of Tokyo Revengers, and it's nice to have some context for where these tropes originated. In a series founded on a time travel premise, what's made me have to suspend my disbelief the most is the idea of a massive gang of high school thugs staging a literal fight club in a public park in broad daylight without anyone so much as noticing them. It's either that or the teachers not noticing their students showing up each day beat half to hell. I guess mandated reporting wasn't a thing in Japan back then, was it?
Though I think we'd all be remiss if someone didn't bring up the grittiest, most realistic high school gang series of them all...the legendary Cromartie High School. |
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tintor2
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I heard Kaneda was far less heroic in the Akira manga even though Otomo was also behind the manga. YuYu Hakusho also had its take on yankis which worried the anime director until he decided to color the anime characters like Tokusatsu characters.
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ZelosZoidberg
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I think River City Ransom was my first experience with this trope. AKIRA being my favorite use of it.
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Dr. Wily
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When I was reading the Top 5 lists my mind rapidly went "Where's Yu Yu Hakusho?" (since Yusuke is what I think of when I think of stereotypical delinquents) then immediately I realized that the only real "gang" there is like, Kuwabara's crew...
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Darmoji
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I think gangs really exists, especially for low to middle class school. but not everyone participating in it. There are also many proof of violence and vandalism by adolescence gangs in the past and still be. Manga like Chameleon and Great Teacher Onizuka may be created in the time these kind of violence are very common.
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residentgrigo
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The next generation or children of the petty criminal bikers of the 80s becoming the 2Chan incels of the 00s and today tracks, I would say. Shonan Bakusozoku, from 1982, became a near-immediate hit and directly led to most of the copycats today. A shame that no one bothered to export the OVAs after the first try failed. The anime and piracy market of the 00s was tailor-made to make them a cult classic.
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BlueAlf
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I think you miswrote. The MC of Tokyo Revengers that time slips is named Takemichi Hanagaki.
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AsuraTheDestructor
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Eh. It feels like Korean Gangster Webtoons have taken over the gangster manga niche that used to be popular (Especially YLab's Bluestring line and PTJ comics like Lookism, How to Fight, Manager Kim, etc)
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enurtsol
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Japanese teens don't even ride those kind of bikes anymore - heck it's even too expensive to earn drivers license now
And Japanese youth population is decreasing; schools are closing due to not enough students - there's just not enough kids to fight locally anymore (that's why they fight in the internet instead where everyone is) |
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whiskeyii
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This article just explained (I think) all the cultural baggage I was missing from the manga version of Real Bout High School. I heard the anime was drastically different, but I've never seen it. ^^;
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