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Kardea



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PostPosted: Sun Sep 07, 2003 12:20 pm Reply with quote
Alright... I've got a few questions for you "more learned" otaku out there.

1) My friend reccommended "Love Hina" to me, and I watched the entire series, both movies, and the OVA in a record-setting 7 days (a record for me, anyways). I absolutely loved it, even though I am a guy and not the most receptive to "chick flics," anime or not. However, though the ending was exactly how it should end, I want to know: are there any plans for more Love Hina? I had heard that it was far more successful than expected, and in my opinion, there is still room in the storyline for more hijinks and such without ruining the Naru-Keitaro thing. Does anyone have any insider info on future Love Hina plans?

2) A few months ago, I finished the Berserk anime (now holding the much-sought-after spot of "Kardea's Favorite Anime"). I was crushed when I saw the ending. I talked around and discovered that the manga goes far, far beyond the point where the anime leaves off. Does anyone know the release date for DC's translation of the Berserk manga? I've heard November...

3) Will people ever give anime a chance? I'm constantly meeting anime fans all over the place, and I can definately notice an increased acceptance of it, but will it ever receive mainstream validity? I mean, come on! It's entertaining, everyone knows it, and still some won't give it a chance. They've even got an Oscar for it now... That's gotta mean something, right Question
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JETBLACK87



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PostPosted: Sun Sep 07, 2003 1:09 pm Reply with quote
to #2

http://www.darkhorse.com/products/profile.html?sku=12705

Dark Horse is releasing #1 October 15, 2003.

if you can't wait for the long time its gonna take to get to the end. than you can get the imports from animenation

http://www.animenation.com/books-import-manga-berserk.html

and a translation here http://arcticnightfall.com/ranemaka13/main.php?section=translations

I don't know if thats any good or not. maybe somebody else knows a better one.
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king_micah



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PostPosted: Sun Sep 07, 2003 1:12 pm Reply with quote
To answer one: Love Hina is actually a romance written for males. The manga is 14 novels, all now available in the US. It is far better then the Anime. The OVA, Love Hina Again is not that good when you see the real ending. The unanswered questions are in fact answered in the manga. There will be no more Love Hina however. The 14 volumes had the soul of them stolen, despite a very spotty addressing of the later chapters. With the way everything went, the only thing you could do is redo the entire series without the filler. The filler was added by the anime because the anime was getting ahead of the manga. There is very little filler in the manga, and thus a remake would cover the whole series with out too much nasty filler.
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Zac
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 07, 2003 1:12 pm Reply with quote
We do have a Q&A column for this sort of thing, you know.

Love Hina is not a 'chick flick', especially in terms of anime. There may be romance, but that show is for men.

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Kardea



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PostPosted: Sun Sep 07, 2003 2:23 pm Reply with quote
A romance for guys, eh? That would explain why I like it... seeing as I'm a guy and all Razz

So are you saying that the ending for the Love Hina manga is better than the one for the anime? The OVA was the conclusion (storyline-wise) for the anime, and I think it was a pretty good ending. Everything that you wanted to happen happened, pretty much. The manga's better?

Also... is there any chance that they will create second seasons of Berserk or Love Hina later down the road? There are no plans for either as of right now, but the mighty dollar makes the world go 'round these days. In this case, that might work for us. If there's money in it, wouldn't a second season of either be a possibility? I know I'd buy both.
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king_micah



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PostPosted: Sun Sep 07, 2003 2:39 pm Reply with quote
The manga goes on a bit farther than the anime, but there is not enough for a new season. I doubt Akamatsu would allow a filler season. He owns the rights to his creation, and Love Hina again is a let down to the readers of the Manga. The anime did enough plot changes, to the point where it could be called a butchering with the OVA. Seriously, read the manga. It will satisfy your desire for more Love Hina. The story is different enough that you will not be bored either.
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Emerje



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PostPosted: Sun Sep 07, 2003 3:10 pm Reply with quote
Ken Akamatsu has moved on to other titles so I'm not so sure he'd go back to Love Hina. The mighty dollar doesn't mean much when it comes to anime unfortunatly. No matter how popular Cowboy Bebop is we're never going to get any more out of it, and we still don't have a Trigun movie or even an OAV. And really, that's the best thing about anime, it doesn't rely on recycling a series over and over and over again. Not to say it doesn't happen, but some of the most popular anime titles are only 26 episodes long and that's all there is to it.

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PostPosted: Sun Sep 07, 2003 3:29 pm Reply with quote
Kardea wrote:
Alright... I've got a few questions for you "more learned" otaku out there.

3) Will people ever give anime a chance? I'm constantly meeting anime fans all over the place, and I can definately notice an increased acceptance of it, but will it ever receive mainstream validity? I mean, come on! It's entertaining, everyone knows it, and still some won't give it a chance. They've even got an Oscar for it now... That's gotta mean something, right Question


Mainstream bad. Mainstream = American Idol = lucrativity over quality. Last thing I want to see is more Pokemon sh**. I do agree that anime could be more accepted though, but we don't want it to become the next big rage. As of now, I think anime is semi-underground and that's good. If there's one good thing about being underground, it's that quality tends to stay high.
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 07, 2003 10:44 pm Reply with quote
BlueRaven12 wrote:
Mainstream bad. Mainstream = American Idol = lucrativity over quality. Last thing I want to see is more Pokemon sh**. I do agree that anime could be more accepted though, but we don't want it to become the next big rage. As of now, I think anime is semi-underground and that's good. If there's one good thing about being underground, it's that quality tends to stay high.


I absolutely agree! If anime becomes something that everyone has heard of and experienced, it won't be as special as it is now. It will be ridiculed and mocked and parodied. As, as previously stated, the quality would probably greatly diminish as makers would know that if they lose a few viewers, many more will still be there. I am quite satisfied with how anime is going at present (and in my location; may be different in less-populated areas), and I hope it continues like this. The only things I worry about are how American companies tend to butcher anime with themes that they disagree with (i.e., graphic violence, same-sex relationships, nudity). If American companies feel that the original is not suitable for public (or cable, as the case may be) television, then they should simply leave it alone.

Anyway, I feel that I might have gotten a little off-topic, but I just love an opportunity to write about things like this. Cool
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nyana



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PostPosted: Mon Sep 08, 2003 1:57 am Reply with quote
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If anime becomes something that everyone has heard of and experienced, it won't be as special as it is now. It will be ridiculed and mocked and parodied.


Isn't anime already ridiculed, mocked and parodied by everyone already? I just don't exactly get what you mean when you say anime is special just because others are not aware of it. You make it sound as if you are part of some sort of elite group just because you watch anime.
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 08, 2003 2:23 am Reply with quote
Semi-underground? Anime? Are you people living in to a rock or do you just not go outside or turn the TV on? Walk in to any video store, they'll have a wall of anime, another wall of anime toys, maybe a rack of anime magazines, a manga stand, etc and so on. They sell .hack and other things in WAL-MART, people. Anime is NOT underground, it IS mainstream. Sorry to spoil your lame "elitist" party here, but anime is about as mainstream as you can possibly get.

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Stealth029



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PostPosted: Mon Sep 08, 2003 6:14 am Reply with quote
Yes there is another seris of love hina and its called love hina again. really good show but if seen it in japanesse keitaro little sister comes.
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Kardea



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PostPosted: Mon Sep 08, 2003 6:21 am Reply with quote
Hmm... I understand what you're saying, Zac, but I think my origional post was misunderstood. I understand that, commercially, anime is very mainstream. However, I was referring more to the "social" acceptance of it. For the most part, I don't care at all what others think, but just for arguments sake, I wanted to know if we, as fans, will ever be more than "those college guys who still watch cartoons?" Personally, I get out a whole lot and do plenty of stuff other than anime. Will I always be judged simply on the fact that I enjoy a great medium for stories? I've gotten lots of my friends really into anime, also, in an effort to, hehe, "spread the love"
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Emerje



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PostPosted: Mon Sep 08, 2003 3:55 pm Reply with quote
sakuuma wrote:
As, as previously stated, the quality would probably greatly diminish as makers would know that if they lose a few viewers, many more will still be there.


Uh, you do know where anime comes from right? Anime comes from JAPAN, where it is already mainstream and has been since the begining. The quality has been maintained longer than many of us have been alive. Do you really think that suddenly the quality will drop because it's popular in America? I don't know if I should laugh at your concept or be scared that there's actually people out there that are so conceited to think that America has so much influence over anime production.

If anything popularity tends to drive quality up, not down, as production companies try to out do each other for your dollars.

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PostPosted: Mon Sep 08, 2003 4:05 pm Reply with quote
Emerje wrote:
sakuuma wrote:
As, as previously stated, the quality would probably greatly diminish as makers would know that if they lose a few viewers, many more will still be there.


Uh, you do know where anime comes from right? Anime comes from JAPAN, where it is already mainstream and has been since the begining. The quality has been maintained longer than many of us have been alive. Do you really think that suddenly the quality will drop because it's popular in America? I don't know if I should laugh at your concept or be scared that there's actually people out there that are so conceited to think that America has so much influence over anime production.

If anything popularity tends to drive quality up, not down, as production companies try to out do each other for your dollars.

Emerje

You seem to underestimate the sway that American companies can have over Japanese production. Big O 2 exists because of Cartoon Network. I didn't like the original Big O, so I don't watch the new one and I can't speak for its quality. But I do remember hearing a while ago, that Cartoon Network would love to get its hands on new Cowboy Bebop episodes (luckily, that wasn't working out too well for them). I'm not the biggest Bebop fan -- in fact, I think the show is pretty damned overrated. But is it going to get _better_ if they make more episodes? Granted, that would just be one show that takes a sudden nosedive thanks to American popularity, but it's only an example. It's true that anime comes from Japan and is commonly accepted there (although whether or not it's maintained quality is up for debate... didn't anyone here see Divergence Eve or Airmaster?), but don't underestimate the capacity of the American audience to cause anime to suffer as a result of its popularity.

That said, I'm all for the expanding acceptance of anime in America. It certainly won't prohibit the creation of new, good shows -- it just might allow for the creation of a lot more crap alongside it. Weed out the bad, watch only the good stuff, just like with any other TV show or movie.
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