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Dessa



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PostPosted: Thu Feb 21, 2008 2:29 am Reply with quote
Was using the handy search bar to look up some Bleach voices, and came across the following entries under "person"

Bleach Dubbed at Rio
We Want Bleach Dubbed at Rio
Queremos Bleach Dublado no Rio

I know Dormcat has said it's really hard to delete entries or stuff like that, but these obviously aren't even proper entries.


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PostPosted: Thu Feb 21, 2008 2:41 am Reply with quote
Dessa wrote:
I know Dormcat has said it's really hard to delete entries or stuff like that, but these obviously aren't even proper entries.

Exactly. While those who submitted them had already been banned, I have no way to remove those scars. Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 21, 2008 5:02 pm Reply with quote
dormcat wrote:
Dessa wrote:
I know Dormcat has said it's really hard to delete entries or stuff like that, but these obviously aren't even proper entries.

Exactly. While those who submitted them had already been banned, I have no way to remove those scars. Rolling Eyes

Can they be unbanned for the time it takes to make the corrections?
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 22, 2008 3:46 pm Reply with quote
doc-watson42 wrote:
Can they be unbanned for the time it takes to make the corrections?

I think they can, but then they'll have to remove their own (false) information. Would you do that, well knowing that you'll be banned again afterwards ?
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 22, 2008 7:42 pm Reply with quote
woelfie wrote:
doc-watson42 wrote:
Can they be unbanned for the time it takes to make the corrections?

I think they can, but then they'll have to remove their own (false) information. Would you do that, well knowing that you'll be banned again afterwards ?

Empty or "dead" entries continue existing even if all credits were removed manually. It doesn't matter who removes the false information, be it an administrator or the submitter him/herself.
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 24, 2008 6:08 pm Reply with quote
dormcat wrote:
Empty or "dead" entries continue existing even if all credits were removed manually. It doesn't matter who removes the false information, be it an administrator or the submitter him/herself.

I kind of misunderstood. The entries are removed, but indeed the name remains available in the database. Is that also true when the false name is merged with a correct one ?
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 24, 2008 9:09 pm Reply with quote
woelfie wrote:
Is that also true when the false name is merged with a correct one ?

No. If a misspelled name (of a person or a company) has been merged AND REPLACED with a correct one, it would no longer appear on the alphabetical list, and any attempt to add the name in its "misspelled form" would be automatically redirected to the correct one, thus one has to be VERY CAREFUL when merging persons or companies (Yukana, Shogakukan and Madhouse are bloody examples, and I still don't have any idea what the heck happened to GONZO).
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Dessa



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PostPosted: Sun Feb 24, 2008 10:53 pm Reply with quote
Would it be possible, perhaps, to take entries such as these, then, and merge them into a single one, at least eliminating the multiples?

Or, even, to make ALL of the bad people pages such as this merge into one single "bad people entries" entry, and merge all new ones into it?
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 24, 2008 11:53 pm Reply with quote
Dessa wrote:
Would it be possible, perhaps, to take entries such as these, then, and merge them into a single one, at least eliminating the multiples?

Or, even, to make ALL of the bad people pages such as this merge into one single "bad people entries" entry, and merge all new ones into it?

A problem is that some names, while misspelled or non-existent as credits, are valid names, and shouldn't be merged into "correct" ones. There were incidents that "misspelled" yet valid names were merged into correct ones, then later a person (often secondary staff) bearing that "misspelled" name suddenly appear on the credit roll.
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Dessa



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PostPosted: Mon Feb 25, 2008 12:20 am Reply with quote
I meant more like the ones I found. Where it's obviously not a person, or, that I've seen posted about before, where it's multiple people credited as one.
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 27, 2008 2:54 am Reply with quote
dormcat wrote:
(Yukana, Shogakukan and Madhouse are bloody examples, and I still don't have any idea what the heck happened to GONZO).

Indeed, what happened to Gonzo? I found 2 "Gonzo" in the database (theoretically impossible) and had to do some cleanup.

And what's so bloody about Yukana, Shogakukan and Madhouse?
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 27, 2008 5:34 am Reply with quote
Dan42 wrote:
And what's so bloody about Yukana, Shogakukan and Madhouse?

For Yukana and Madhouse, it was their respective new (stage) names were merged into old ones (Yukana Nogami and Madhouse Studios, respectively); the proper way should be the other way around. On some pages Madhouse uses two words instead of one. Rolling Eyes

A similar case involves Pierrot and Studio Pierrot; the latter, although created earlier, should be merged into the former, as Pierrot never uses "studio" to describe itself on either Japanese or English versions of their official website. The complete formal title should be "Pierrot Co., Ltd." but I think "Pierrot" should be sufficient in this case.

For Shogakukan, the mother company (publisher) was merged into Shogakukan Productions Co., Ltd. (ShoPro), the subsidiary of copyright and licensing management, leaving lots of manga "published by ShoPro," which is neither correct nor appropriate. As a compromise, all manga published by Shogakukan should use "Shogakukan, Inc." as the publisher instead. Please check Chris' thread on Oct. 1, 2005 in staff forum for more info.
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 28, 2008 1:06 am Reply with quote
dormcat wrote:
A similar case involves Pierrot and Studio Pierrot; the latter, although created earlier, should be merged into the former, as Pierrot never uses "studio" to describe itself on either Japanese or English versions of their official website.

They used to do so, but seem to have adopted the new name around early 2003:

http://web.archive.org/web/*/http://pierrot.jp/

Or rather, 2002, per the Japanese Wikipedia article.
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 28, 2008 1:44 am Reply with quote
doc-watson42 wrote:
Or rather, 2002, per the Japanese Wikipedia article.

Thanks. Embarassed
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doc-watson42
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 28, 2008 7:04 am Reply with quote
dormcat wrote:
doc-watson42 wrote:
Or rather, 2002, per the Japanese Wikipedia article.

Thanks. Embarassed

You're welcome. Smile I knew that the name change had happened, but this is first time I've actually looked it up.

As for "Madhouse" versus "Mad House", I agree with your Rolling Eyes —I wish I were fluent and literate in Japanese so that I could get a job in the industry as "official English text checker", where I would verify the correctness of all English spelling, romaji and transliterations ("Holo" versus "Horo", anyone?).
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