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MFrontier
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Posted: Mon Jun 23, 2025 1:39 pm |
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Yeah, the anime production values definitely didn't do the manga art justice. I feel like it was this series and A Condition Called Love where I started recognizing Shojo anime not getting quite the level of production that they deserved.
Now that you mention it, the anime does kind of keep the mystery of what happened to Kizuki more top of mind compared to the manga. I remember every episode people (and myself) were asking "What happened to Kizuki!?" I didn't engage with the Orange comparisons until you brought them up.
In fairness to Kizuki...Shin gets just as bad when he confesses to Mizuho. Kizuki is really just a puppy dog devoted to Mizuho. But I agree that Mizuho's problem is she doesn't seem really invested in getting in a romantic relationship and not at the expense of the friend group, which causes her to be wishy-washy even as Kizuki slowly becomes more important to her, even if she didn't fully realize it at the time.
Also, Airu feels like a character that's probably gay but they're not being absolutely explicit about it.
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kaiju3
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Posted: Mon Jun 23, 2025 4:07 pm |
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While Haruka Mitsui is certainly familiar with Orange and may have constructed a story with similar elements, what sets Orange apart is that it was Ichigo Takano's very brilliantly contrived polygny fantasy. To the point when even confronted with a deluge of fans furious at Hiroto Suwa's treatment, Ichigo Takano merely doubled down with Orange: Mirai. Meanwhile Anyway, I'm Falling In Love With You seems more of a straightforward "which guy will she choose" story.
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jdnation
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Posted: Mon Jun 23, 2025 11:53 pm |
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Normally I'd be into this, but it just felt so boring, I dropped it early in after 5 episodes or so...
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Princess_Irene
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Posted: Tue Jun 24, 2025 6:36 am |
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| kaiju3 wrote: | | While Haruka Mitsui is certainly familiar with Orange and may have constructed a story with similar elements, what sets Orange apart is that it was Ichigo Takano's very brilliantly contrived polygny fantasy. To the point when even confronted with a deluge of fans furious at Hiroto Suwa's treatment, Ichigo Takano merely doubled down with Orange: Mirai. Meanwhile Anyway, I'm Falling In Love With You seems more of a straightforward "which guy will she choose" story. |
Rather than the romantic elements, I was specifically referring to the possibility of one of the main characters dying, which is what I view as the central conceit of Orange - an attempt to rectify/change the past. On the romance front, yes, it is much more straightforward.
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InfiniteNothingness
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Posted: Tue Jun 24, 2025 10:38 am |
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Yeah, this was a first episode drop for me, and even that felt like a bit too much of my time. I like shoujo (partly grew up on it), I can work with such obvious wish fulfillment from all sorts of angles. But in between the frankly spineless dancing around "the virus" — carried over from the manga, and I'm side-eyeing the presumable editors there too — and how ugly and washed out the show ended up, I was pretty good. For the better though as I probably would've just dropped this halfway through anyway. As wistful and nostalgic as the anime tried to be, it failed on both fronts for me.
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kaiju3
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Posted: Tue Jun 24, 2025 2:03 pm |
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| Princess_Irene wrote: | | Rather than the romantic elements, I was specifically referring to the possibility of one of the main characters dying, which is what I view as the central conceit of Orange - an attempt to rectify/change the past. On the romance front, yes, it is much more straightforward. |
One of the main characters dying was a plot device to enable the main conceit. (Not going to use spoiler tags for a 10 year old show). Traditional female-centered love triangle stories heavily inconvenience the female with the betrayal, guilt, jealousy, breakups etc. that result from her being forced to choose one when she wants both.
With Orange, Ichigo Takano's goal was to let Naho have both and ditch the resulting inconveniences by shifting them all to the guys. How? First the guys character traits to facilitate it: give Kakeru a case of "terminal Hollywood depression" where being with Naho under any terms is the only cure and give Naho to live and give Hiroto's "vicarious niceness" where observing Maho's happiness is the only way for him to achieve happiness.
Next, Kakeru's death enables multiple timelines where Naho got to experience getting married and having a son with both guys. The first: marry Hiroto with Kakeru, who cannot live without Naho, dead. The second and true: Naho is physically married to Kakeru, emotionally married to Hiroto and everyone is happy thanks to the male character traits contrived to make the story work.
In truth only Naho is happy, and Naho's happiness through getting to spend her life with both guys is the only thing that the author cares about. Everything else - Kakeru's death, the multiple timelines, the fantasy guy character traits - is just an enabler.
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MFrontier
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Posted: Tue Jun 24, 2025 5:58 pm |
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| InfiniteNothingness wrote: | | Yeah, this was a first episode drop for me, and even that felt like a bit too much of my time. I like shoujo (partly grew up on it), I can work with such obvious wish fulfillment from all sorts of angles. But in between the frankly spineless dancing around "the virus" — carried over from the manga, and I'm side-eyeing the presumable editors there too — and how ugly and washed out the show ended up, I was pretty good. For the better though as I probably would've just dropped this halfway through anyway. As wistful and nostalgic as the anime tried to be, it failed on both fronts for me. |
I feel like a real manga dealing with COVID would probably have had more kids in masks.
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