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PostPosted: Mon Jan 05, 2026 10:29 am Reply with quote
While I have seen all of the titles listed here except Carnival Phantasm, this is still much-appreciated, as there are some connections here that I have either missed or forgotten about.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 05, 2026 11:24 am Reply with quote
Narita is so obsessed with obscure lore that you’ll never honestly catch everything, I’m pretty sure he deliberately for obscure points everyone forgot because he thinks it’s fun. So I’ve always seen it as kind of a “the more you’ve seen the merrier” thing, but you also have to accept sometimes you won’t catch it. But… yeah probably watch Zero.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 05, 2026 12:28 pm Reply with quote
Nobody14 wrote:
Narita is so obsessed with obscure lore that you’ll never honestly catch everything, I’m pretty sure he deliberately for obscure points everyone forgot because he thinks it’s fun. So I’ve always seen it as kind of a “the more you’ve seen the merrier” thing, but you also have to accept sometimes you won’t catch it. But… yeah probably watch Zero.
Yeah, if anything the answer with Narita stuff, it's obviously "everything" (well, maybe outside of Fate/Kaleid... but you never know) at this point, he and Makoto Sanda (writer of El-Melloi Case Files and it's currently running sequel) literally competing (while collaborating at same time) against each other on whoever put the most obscure stuff made in the Fate universe at the same time.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 05, 2026 12:42 pm Reply with quote
Does this mean the Heaven's Feel movies aren't required watching for this series? I've been putting them off for years, but I fully intend to watch them eventually. Now that Fate/strange Fake is officially here, I can finally watch Whispers of Dawn and Episode 1 after waiting all these years. I'm just wondering how much I gotta binge this week. It might be a busy, Fate-ful few days for me.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 05, 2026 1:01 pm Reply with quote
MyMasterMatthew wrote:
Does this mean the Heaven's Feel movies aren't required watching for this series? I've been putting them off for years, but I fully intend to watch them eventually. Now that Fate/strange Fake is officially here, I can finally watch Whispers of Dawn and Episode 1 after waiting all these years. I'm just wondering how much I gotta binge this week. It might be a busy, Fate-ful few days for me.


I'd say they aren't. The article makes a good case but if you watch only one thing before Strange/Fake it should be Fate/Zero. There are plenty of easter eggs to the wider Nasuverse but Zero gets the most direct references to the point that spoiler[a character in-universe plays clips from Zero for other characters to watch] Laughing
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 05, 2026 1:20 pm Reply with quote
MyMasterMatthew wrote:
Does this mean the Heaven's Feel movies aren't required watching for this series? I've been putting them off for years, but I fully intend to watch them eventually. Now that Fate/strange Fake is officially here, I can finally watch Whispers of Dawn and Episode 1 after waiting all these years. I'm just wondering how much I gotta binge this week. It might be a busy, Fate-ful few days for me.
Honestly it's questionable and complicated - while Narita (and Sanda) obviously never state that their works continue the certain route of F/SN, they obviously prefer the conclusion of UBW/Rin route over the others because it gives them less restrain to bring more F/SN affiliated stuff to their AU sequels unlike the Fate or HF endings.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 05, 2026 3:19 pm Reply with quote
Forgetting the most important read: Himuro no Tenchi Fate/school life, the 4koma which this is a timeline branch of
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 05, 2026 4:48 pm Reply with quote
From the outside Fate always seemed like one of those impenetrable ridiculously-convoluted multimedia franchises that Japan seems enamored with producing every so often. I finally dipped my toe into it with some friends after UBW aired on that AXS TV block, and then we watched Zero afterwards. And after those two I have to say...my initial opinion of it hasn't changed all that much. Like I've now sat through two Holy Grail Wars, and I think I know less about what the Grail actually is and how it works than when I started. Laughing All of the spinoffs seem like a whole other level of "okay now what is this," even with the aide of that guide ANN posted a couple of years ago. I'm not sure I'm all that interested in diving down that rabbit hole.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 05, 2026 6:18 pm Reply with quote
If you want a quick breakdown of magic and how it works in Fate (including an explanation of what the Holy Grail really is), I wrote up a primer on it a while back titled "Why Are the Mages in Fate Such not-so-nice-people?".

It's also more than a little helpful explaining the politics at play in Fate/strange Fake.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 05, 2026 6:51 pm Reply with quote
Honestly, as a light novel reader, there's a glaring omission that I'd say is actually way more important to understanding certain stuff in Strange Fake than any of the second set of three series that were listed here, and that's Grand Order Babylonia (The good news is it's only Babylonia specifically so any other Fate Go knowledge isn't really necessary). Aside from giving more context for Gilgamesh, there's a number of details that heavily draw from stuff there in the back half of the novels (granted this means they won't be as relevant until a potential season 2 since this season seems like it'll only cover until volume 5), and there's at least one moment in that back half that will make way more sense if you're familiar with some stuff that's important in Babylonia. Compared to that understanding the fate specific stuff about Jeanne is pretty irrelevant (like she's a well known enough historic figure and nothing about her fate specific lore is really important here) and understanding the basics of dead apostles really isn't complicated with this alone
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 05, 2026 7:10 pm Reply with quote
Aaronrules380 wrote:
Compared to that understanding the fate specific stuff about Jeanne is pretty irrelevant (like she's a well known enough historic figure and nothing about her fate specific lore is really important here) and understanding the basics of dead apostles really isn't complicated with this alone

Agree with this, the connection of Jeanne to spoiler[Prelati] is honestly the least important aspect of their character - even when considering how that ties to their relationship to spoiler[Gilles], that's basically just there to explain why they would specifically be interested in looking into the Fourth War lol
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 05, 2026 7:13 pm Reply with quote
Aaronrules380 wrote:
Honestly, as a light novel reader, there's a glaring omission that I'd say is actually way more important to understanding certain stuff in Strange Fake than any of the second set of three series that were listed here, and that's Grand Order Babylonia (The good news is it's only Babylonia specifically so any other Fate Go knowledge isn't really necessary). Aside from giving more context for Gilgamesh, there's a number of details that heavily draw from stuff there in the back half of the novels (granted this means they won't be as relevant until a potential season 2 since this season seems like it'll only cover until volume 5), and there's at least one moment in that back half that will make way more sense if you're familiar with some stuff that's important in Babylonia.

You know, now that I think about it, you're right. If I were to write this again, I'd include Babylonia. When I was considering it, I left it out because I didn't feel that the Gilgamesh/Enkidu stuff was enough to warrant watching the whole thing--especially because Fate/strange Fake shows us their relationship just as well all on its own.

However, for some reason I spaced on the fact that Babylonia also introduces us to spoiler[Ishtar] who plays a huge role in Fate/strange Fake. Seeing her interact with Gilgamesh in Babylonia--setting up how their relationship was back in the day (even with spoiler[Rin] acting as her host and positively affecting her personality) certainly adds to how things play out in Fate/strange Fake.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 05, 2026 10:32 pm Reply with quote
Richard Eisenbeis wrote:
If you want a quick breakdown of magic and how it works in Fate (including an explanation of what the Holy Grail really is), I wrote up a primer on it a while back titled "Why Are the Mages in Fate Such not-so-nice-people?".

It's also more than a little helpful explaining the politics at play in Fate/strange Fake.

Thanks for the link, that's a great write-up! Having to rely on an external source to shed light on what I'd consider to be very fundamental and necessary backstory elements illustrates nicely why I tend to bounce off of huge interconnected franchises like this. It's like there's a big sticker on the front saying "You must watch/read/play these 20 other bits of ephemera before this will truly make sense."
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 06, 2026 12:26 am Reply with quote
Richard Eisenbeis wrote:
You know, now that I think about it, you're right. If I were to write this again, I'd include Babylonia. When I was considering it, I left it out because I didn't feel that the Gilgamesh/Enkidu stuff was enough to warrant watching the whole thing--especially because Fate/strange Fake shows us their relationship just as well all on its own.

However, for some reason I spaced on the fact that Babylonia also introduces us to spoiler[Ishtar] who plays a huge role in Fate/strange Fake. Seeing her interact with Gilgamesh in Babylonia--setting up how their relationship was back in the day (even with spoiler[Rin] acting as her host and positively affecting her personality) certainly adds to how things play out in Fate/strange Fake.

Yeah, the ending of the spoiler[Ishtar] stuff in particular is going to cause some confusion if people aren't aware of spoiler[Erishkigal and their relationship in fate as well how she also used Rin as a Pseudo Servant]

On another related note, spoiler[pointing out how important Rin is is already kind of spoilery since her role in this is also a secret until pretty late]
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 06, 2026 9:21 am Reply with quote
By “Grand Order Babylonia”, are y’all referring to the “Fate/Grand Order – Absolute Demonic Front: Babylonia” anime? Just trying to figure out if I need to add something else to my watch list.
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